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What is your opinion of this "chain e-mail"? [8 vote(s)]

It's the gospel truth
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It sounds like it may be true
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Some fact some fiction
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Pretty suspicious sounding
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Makes a great piece of misleading propoganda
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Urban Myth or Fact? Who can corraborate the claims here...


I just received this in e-mail from a co-worker, who in turn had received it from his wife (who is also a former co-worker).  I am a little suspicious of some of the details.  Who wants to take a crack at vetting or discrediting the points made in this "chain e-mail"?  I suggest that until it is proven, you take it worth a grain of salt.




Many years ago in Seattle, two wonderful  neighbors, Elliott and Patty Roosevelt came to my home to swim  on a  regular basis.  They were a great couple full  of laughter and stories that today I continue to  marvel at.  Both are now deceased, but their stories  remain. During the years of our friendship we had many,  many discussions a bout Elliott's parents (President Franklin  D. and Eleanor Roosevelt) and how his father and  mother never intended for the Social Security and  Welfare programs to turn out the way they are today.   Elliott used to say that if his parents returned to earth  and saw what the politicians had done to their  programs they would have burned all of them in  hell.





Here is a story I received today regarding the  Social Security Program and I immediately thought  of Elliott's comments.  I Hope you will  read this and think about  it.
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Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the  Social Security  (FICA) Program.  He   promised:
1.)  That participation in the Program would be completely voluntary,


2.) That the participants would only have to  pay 1% of the  first $1,400 of their  annual incomes  into the  Program,


3.) That the money the participants elected to  put into the  Program would be deductible  from their  income for tax purposes each  year,


4.) That the money the participants put into  the independent  "Trust Fund" rather than into  the General  operating fund, and therefore,  would only be  used to fund the Social  Security Retirement Program, and no  other Government  program,  and,



5.) That the annuity payments to the  retirees would  never be taxed as  income
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Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and  are now  receiving a Social Security check every month;  and then  finding that we are getting taxed on 85%  of the money we  paid to the Federal government to  "put away" --  you may be interested in the  following:





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Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from  the independent  "Trust Fund" and put it into  the General fund  so that Congress could spend  it?





A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the  democratically controlled House and  Senate.





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Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income  tax deduction  for Social Security (FICA)  withholding?





A: The Democratic  Party.





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Q: Which Political Party started taxing  Social Security  annuities????





A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting  the "tie-breaking"  deciding vote as President of  the Senate, while he  was Vice President of the  US





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Q: Which Political Party decided to start  giving annuity  payments to  immigrants?





This is MY  FAVORITE:





A: That's right!  Jimmy Carter! And the Democratic party of course!





Immigrants moved into this country, and at age  65, began to receive  Social Security payments!  The Democratic Party  gave these payments to  them, even though they  never paid a dime into  it!





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Then, after doing all this lying and thieving and  violating of the  original contract (FICA), the  Democrats ;  turn around  and tell you that the  Republicans want to  take your Social Security  away!





And the worst part about it is  uninformed citizens  believe  it!





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If enough people receive this, maybe a seed  of awareness will be  planted and maybe changes  will evolve.   Maybe not!.. many Democrats are  awfully sure of what  isn't  so!!





But it's worth a try.  How many people  can YOU send this  to? Actions speak  louder than bumper  stickers. Forward this  E-mail to others so that they  can be informed of the  truth.



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"Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!"

As snopes said, even citizens who haven't paid into FICA cannot recieve benefits from Social Security. As a SAHM, I haven't worked enough to get benefits. Knowing that helped me identify at least that point as inaccurate, and threw the whole email into suspicion.

My uncle sends me stuff like this all the time. When he sends something really spurious, I will snope it out and send him the link. Then he doesn't send me anything for awhile, until he forgets that I actually check reliabilily on the information he sends.



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Hehehe. I snopes the things my sister sends me...and send the link in a "Reply to all." That way the rest of her friends know too. Hehehe. That'll teach her! (Until next time.)

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