Ann Coulter - - - GODLESS

Michaela · Newbie

Ann Coulter - - - GODLESS

arbilad · Head Chef

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bokbadok · Senior Bucketkeeper

I picked up this book and skimmed a little bit in the store. I agreed with most of what little I read, in principle. She tends to be quite strident, IMO.

Glad to see you here, Michaela :)

-- Edited by bokbadok at 21:09, 2006-08-27

Euphrasie · Senior Bucketkeeper

RE: Ann Coulter - - - GODLESS

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

I normally don't read political books. Any, unless it is more historical based. That's just me. I know there are those who just eat the stuff up (otherwise there wouldn't be so many of those sort of books on the best seller lists or at the bookstores). I did buy one of Glenn Beck's books a couple years ago after my brother-in-law introduced me to his radio show, but it didn't inspire anything in me other than to read about his life changes and the context of his conversion.

I guess you could say I'm from Missouri when it comes to reading books about political topics... "Show Me" why it is important first. To me personally a lot of it just is a bunch of

So, here is everyone's challenge. "Show Me" objectively why it is important to read this or that book. Can the book, it's subject matter, and how it is written lend itself to being included in "the best of books"?

bokbadok · Senior Bucketkeeper

The thing about books by Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, etc, is that they are written for one audience: ultra conservatives. Liberals are never going to read these books. So, they're not out to convince anyone of anything they didn't already believe. They're pretty much preaching to the choir. And that makes it seem like it's just about making money.

But hey, this is America. If there's a market for something, somebody will fill the need. If there's not a market, they'll create one.

Euphrasie · Senior Bucketkeeper

bokbadok wrote:

The thing about books by Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, etc, is that they are written for one audience: ultra conservatives. Liberals are never going to read these books. So, they're not out to convince anyone of anything they didn't already believe. They're pretty much preaching to the choir. And that makes it seem like it's just about making money.

But hey, this is America. If there's a market for something, somebody will fill the need. If there's not a market, they'll create one.

Quite true.

Here's a note OSC just put up:Ann Coulter's new book (which I haven't read) has a grossly inaccurate title: Godless: The Church of Liberalism. It may be true that liberalism does not accept the same God as religious conservatives. But they are certainly not godless.

How can you tell who someone's god is? You look to see whose name they invoke as the cause of all things, good or bad. By that standard, the god of the devout Left is Global Warming...Found here.

bokbadok · Senior Bucketkeeper

the god of the devout Left is Global Warming...

Hee Hee!

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

Oh, I think I know what book / author you are talking about know. I saw her being interviewed on Hannity and Colmes one evening when I was flippin' channels for something substantial to watch between FoxNews, CNN, and whatever the other big cable new channel is.

I wasn't impressed, and got the distinct impression the real motivating factor in writing the book was to further political spin and make money. Maybe that is why I don't put a lot of personal stock in any book that gets published that is written by someone who is the host of a talk radio or tv show or a professional political commentator, be they celebrity or a wannabe.

So, what does the author have to say?

Euphrasie · Senior Bucketkeeper

I saw an interview/debate with her too once. I thought it was strange how she kept accusing her opponents of misinterpreting her and refusing to answer her questions...while she deftly sidestepped really answering any of theirs. IOW, no one said anything intelligent the whole time I was watching.

noel · Veteran Member

Cat Herder,

I have not read "Godless", but I have gone through "Treason", her prior book.

I suspect there is quite a bit of overlap. There are, after all, a limited number of ways to be wrong in the modern political landscape...and her topic is the liberal mind-set.

While she is an excellent polemicist, her primary value is historical documentation of facts not popular with liberal myth makers.

Her thesis is that, in the fifties, conservatives chose God, and liberals chose Man. Not much has changed, but the ability to make the distinction is vital to a populace reared in the current public educational environment.

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

I haven't read it. When I've heard her speak in person, and she's mostly and ...

--Ray

-- Edited by rayb at 17:54, 2006-08-28

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

noel wrote:

she is an excellent polemicist, her primary value is historical documentation of facts not popular with liberal myth makers.

Her thesis is that, in the fifties, conservatives chose God, and liberals chose Man. Not much has changed, but the ability to make the distinction is vital to a populace reared in the current public educational environment.

Well, I'll have to go get the dictionary to figure out what polemicist is.

I'm not versed in a lot of the fancy political jargon. Maybe I'll look the book up at the library or something for a glance. I've been thinking of a seeing if the local library has copies of a couple books I don't feel like buying from Deseret Book club.

Randy · Senior Member

I haven't read it but I read her columns every chance I get (unlike the book they are free), and she's mostly hilarious, insightful, and informative. Her debates are less interesting--she does better when she can take as much time as she needs to choose her words.

Although I haven't read the book, I read an article or two about it (including one by Ann herself) and so far I'm not sure I understand what the point is. She proves that Liberalism has all of the trappings and elements of a church. She shows that Liberal complaints about and policies in opposition to Christians are extremely hypocritical. But why we need her to tell us these things is not really clear to me.

Maybe I better read the book and find out.

Fregramis · Senior Member

I think Ann Coulter is in the right orientation politically. Her methods are acidic and I would not be comfortable using them. But I have to say I burned out on political books some time ago. They just don't get me fired up anymore. Very few are classics. I would include Bork's "Slouching Towards Gommorah". My politcal leanings are now based more upon real life situations and underlying convictions. Real life situations including forums such as these where ideas are exchanged.

arbilad · Head Chef

So, has anyone else read this book since we last had this discussion? I still haven't had a chance.

Mahonri · Senior Bucketkeeper

Guess I missed this topic from before...but I guess I'll go out and buy it. I really like Ann Coulter.

Also... I know some Latter-day Saints that are Democrats that I might think about calling Godless.

Shame on me.

M

Randy · Senior Member

In priesthood meeting a week ago, after someone (it wasn't me!!!!!) commented that the democrats had taken Christ out of Easter, another someone got up and left.

When asked why, he said he was offended by the remark against democrats.

Boy, that was uncomfortable.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

Well if the shoe fits.........

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

Sigh. Sounds like democrats aren't the only ones guilty of making their politics their religion...

--Ray