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Where the republicans went wrong


In my opinion, where the republican party went wrong was when they decided to abandon their principles and become a branch of the democratic party. Just look at the presidential candidates. Are you for a cap and trade environmental system? So were both candidates! Are you for allowing illegals into the country? So were both candidates! Go down the list: more government involvement in health care, government bailout of private business (socialism), etc. The list is long. The Republicans were healthy as a party when they offered an alternative. When they were the party of small government and fiscal responsibility. Now they're just the democrats lite.
It's like when a white man tries to be a rap music star; it usually winds up being pretty pathetic because rap is a distinctly black man style of music, and someone who hasn't grown up in that culture can't really imitate it. Voters saw two liberals: Obama and McCain. Given the choice between two liberals, they chose the one who was truer to the liberal philosophy, and not one who tried to mask his liberalism with a conservative mask.

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The Republicans chose the Washington insider as they did with Bob Dole in 1996, and Gerald Ford 20 years before that.  The GOP tends to do better with a governor of a healthy elector-rich state (Reagan, Bush 43). Palin has no chance for 2012.  As much as I love her and wish she was my governor, she has been "Borked " beyond redemption and was put on the front lines way too early (not her fault).

 I'm not sure who is out there in GOP land who will be able to cut the through the vague rhetoric that Obama spouts.  The media will vouch for him at every turn.  Gingrich has the articulation but not the character.  Jindal, Pawlenty  and Sanford are good men but lack the luster need to outshine Obama.  Romney is  capable but the Christian right won't give him a chance.

Unless there is a major foreign policy blunder in the second half of Obama's first term, it could be eight years of Barack.  Just our luck, the recession will end in three years, OBL will be captured, Iraq stablaized......... and guess who will get the credit.cry




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"The chief problem of American political life...has been how to make the two Congressional parties more national and international. The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy." (Prof.Carroll Quigley, "Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time", 1247-1248)

Just so you know where this guy is coming from, on Page 950 he wrote  "
There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted to two years, in the early 1960's, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments..."  Quigley was referring to the Council on Foreign Relations.  Bill Clinton made a big deal of him in a speech at his first inauguration.Bottom line, the apparent merger of the Democrat and Republican Parties appears to have been deliberately planned.  Also, unfortunately, most Americans seem to prefer big, socialist government. 

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Why did Obama win?  I think it was a convergence of factors, including Barack Obama himself, McCain and his campaign, the media, the economy, the state of the Republican party, and the current nature of the American voters.

Obama ran a very competent and effective campaign.  He is an eloquent speaker who was able to motivate millions to eagerly support his candidacy.   And the Mainstream Media (MSM) was right there in the ring with Obama.  If it were up to the MSM nothing negative about Obama would have been revealed.  

But I still think the McCain team blew the election every bit as much as Obama won it.  

Throughout McCains political career, he has constantly betrayed the conservative voters.  Also,  at times it seemed the McCain team really didnt want to win.  The candidate just wouldnt go for the jugular.  There was plenty on Obamas record that a determined candidate could have attacked.  There was the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers, an Obama associate.  But McCain barely brought him up. There was Obamas longtime preacher, Jeremiah Wright, a rabid anti-white activist.  McCain seemed afraid to talk about that much.  And I believe if he had the Obama team would have retaliated and have "swiftboated" McCain with his real Navy record and other scandals he got himself into.  Many Vets know of his opposition in Congress to investigation into MIAs and missing POWs from the Vietnam and Korean wars.  Voters concerned about 2nd Amendment rights know, in spite of the desperate hogwash from the NRA, that he is no friend of the 2nd Amendment. 

The Republican Party has gone so far adrift from its former conservative principles that many more republican voters were sorely tempted to vote for the CP or the LP.  I encountered a lot of those during my own campaign efforts for the CP. 

The American electorate has changed.   There are increasingly more socialists in America today.  Many more Americans today support all kinds of big government socialist perks.

Also, a massive demographic shift is taking place in our country.  The white majority of the U.S.A. is being systematically reduced to minority status.  If present trends continue, whites will be a minority by 2042.   Even though McCain has pandered to Hispanics his entire political career, has celebrated the growth of the Spanish language and culture in the U.S., has defended illegal immigration, and promotes amnesty for millions of illegal aliens. And yet he still couldn't win the Hispanic vote.

 


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