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Jen


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Today on another forum, Proposition 8 was being discussed. They were talking about how unfair it was that Yes on 8 had more funding, the wording was confusing, and it had too much out of state support.

I very factually pasted the entire wording of the proposition (very simple and not at all confusing) and the actual dollar amounts raised. No on 8 raised over $2 million more than Yes on 8, AND they raised almost $1 million more in out-of-state money than Yes on 8.

I said absolutely nothing more. Just facts, no opinion. I was ripped up and down by a few people for being bigoted and hateful. A few others defended me, saying that I had said absolutely NOTHING other than quoting facts.

In the end, the thread was pulled. Because *I* am a bigot for using pesky things like actual numbers. The told me that the LDS church was "dead to them" and started talking about how they would see and treat Mormons from now on. . . but I am the bigoted one.

This fight isn't over. They're mad, they're looking for something to contest the victory. I don't know that they'll find anything; I think this whole proposition and the passing of it were inspired, and it all seems pretty water tight. But I'm seeing that we can't be "camouflaged" members anymore. The days of gliding along being a church member are coming to a close. We're going to have to fight for what we believe. We're going to be talked to hatefully and accused of things we're not. We'll have to choose discipleship over popularity.

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Passage of state constitutional marriage protection amendments in California, Arizona and Florida

Gays Call for Violence Against Christian Supporters of Prop 8

 By Matt Barber  Wednesday, November 5, 2008

Lynchburg, VA In a stunning reaction to the passage of state constitutional marriage protection amendments in California, Arizona and Florida, several self identified homosexuals on a number of homosexual blogs are advocating violence against Christians and other supporters of traditional marriage.  Additionally, some homosexuals are calling for church burnings in response to yesterdays three state referenda in defense of natural marriage.

In a blog entry titled Youll Want to Punch them on Queerty.com, poster BillyBob Thornton wrote, I have never considered being a violent radical extremist for our Equal Rights, But now I think maybe I should consider becoming one. Stenar asked, Can someone in CA please go burn down the Mormon temples there, PLEASE. I mean seriously. DO IT. Angelo Ventura, said, hope they all rot in hell, those servants of a lying, corrupt devil!

BAN RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISM! And, Jonathan, warned, Im going to give them something to be f ing scared of. Im a radical who is now on a mission to make them all pay for what theyve done.

Meanwhile, over at JoeMyGod.blogspot.com, World O Jeff, said, Burn their fing churches to the ground, and then tax the charred timbers. While, Tread, wrote, I hope the No on 8 people have a long list and long knives. Joe, stated, I swear, Id murder people with my bare hands this morning.

And on the Americablog.com Web site, scottinsf posted, Trust me. Ive got a big list of names of mormons and catholics that were big supporters of Prop 8. As far as mormons and catholics ... I warn them to watch their backs.

Contact:  jmattbarber@comcast.net - 202-255-1959

Matt Barber, Director of Cultural Affairs with both Liberty Alliance Action and Liberty Counsel, said, This is not just a matter of some people blowing off steam because theyre not happy with a political outcome.  This is criminal activity.  The homosexual lobby is always calling for tolerance and diversity and playing the role of victim.  They claim to deplore violence and hate. Here we have homosexuals inciting, and directly threatening, violence against Christians.  This is not free speech; these are hate crimes under the existing definition.  Imagine if Christian Web sites were advocating such violence against homosexuals.  Thered be outrage, and rightfully so.  Itd be national front-page news.  Federal authorities should immediately investigate these threats and prosecute the perpetrators to the fullest extent of the law.  I also call on the Human Rights Campaign, the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and other leaders within the homosexual lobby to immediately call for an end to these homosexual threats of violence against Christians. 



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arbilad


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Jen, that's sad and sick that church members would put "tolerance" above obedience to God. We've always been told that if we listen to the majority of the brethren we'd be guided right. But many church members have gone over to the great and spacious building.

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,447744,00.html

So now the gay advocates are clashing with police. They are very very mad right now.

On one story about Prop 8 being passed that I read off of Google news, I decided to read the comments to the story. There are tons of people who think Mormons in particular should be driven out of California, or at least have all of their marriages nullified in the state.


Before the vote was done I was thinking that things were going to get ugly, whether or not Prop 8 passed or not.

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Isn't it wonderful that they're so incredibly tolerant? I mean, what's more tolerant than threatening to kill those who disagree with you politically?

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Yeah, the hypocrisy is nauseating.

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Did you see where they are protesting around the LA temple?  I sure hope that the security was stepped up to prevent any attempts of arson or other vandalism to the temple.

But, you know, even if something does happen to the temple, I know that we will respond with forgiveness and compassion and simply work to take care of any damage.  Thus, providing examples to those willing to see.

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