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Cat Herder


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Fred Thompson Defends Campaign Adviser With Criminal Record

Wouldn't one be advisable for anyone who is going to work on a presidential candidate's campaign at that high a level? Who cares if your friend is successful and, according to your word, has "paid his debt to society and turned himself around"? Shouldn't you have known about this from the start? rolleyes

I mean, the BSA runs background checks on merit badge counselors before allowing them to become counselors...

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I don't see what the big deal is. It happened over 20 years ago. Many folks have drug charges in their backgrounds. If it happened last year then I would say it was an issue but over 20 years seems a little extreme to get worked up over for drugs. Murder, child molestation, rape, embezzlement and I would be concerned.

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The "big deal" is not the guy's background, but that a presidential candidate did not bother to find out the background of one of his big supporters.

It seems to me that Romney has been hammered a couple times already by liability "skeletons" in the closet of some of his campaign workers and supporters, but other candidates -- including those that are slinging fake mud because of it -- get a bye in this regards?

That's all...

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I believe Fred's got bigger skeletons in his closet than this. In many ways these things don't come out because they're being saved for a general election. This is small stuff...

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I didn't really give a flip about Romney's guys either. I guess I've become jaded after we had a Hillbilly who admitted smoking dope with his hand on the button for 8 years.

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Ah... jaded...

Now that is something to think about. Where exactly did that term come from? Why is it we say someone or something is jaded instead of granited, or onyxed, or hematited? Jade is actually kind of soft compared to many other rocks... wink.gif

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It is soft. There's a place in California called Jade cove where you can dive for jade. You have to scratch it underwater to be able to tell if it is jade or not. So maybe I've become daimondededed instead of Jaded.

I guess another reason I don't get too worked up about it is that about half my employees have something or other in their background. Usually drugs or a DUI. We run background checks and random testing so we know upfront if there is something there. If it happened a few years ago and they've stayed out of trouble we usually will give a qualified candidate a chance. Nearly everyone that applies these days has something on their record. I used to be surprised by it but not anymore. I usually expect it. More times than not if a person marks the "no felony" box on their application they are lying and the background check catches them. We don't hire those folks because the dishonesty is a greater danger than a ten year old marijuanna conviction.

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So, Jason, if I ever apply for a job from you, I take it you won't hire me since I would be checking the "no felony" box.

Tragic... and we had such a great thing going with the tomacolate! rofl.gif

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Only if you checked the box and a felony came up on your background check Cat.

It is funny in that we constanty tell people to be up front with us because we will be conducting the background check. They will sit there insisting they are clean and then their background check comes back with something truly horrible. It costs nearly $100 every time we run one of those things and yet they sit there lying and waste time and money. I had one guy who threw puppies into a harvester and went to jail that did that. Another guy lied flat out and had multiple rape convictions. Just the sort of people I want to let around my family!

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Here's an interesting hypothetical then, Jason - what if that multiple rapist told you up front about it, told you that he had worked out his problems in therapy, got baptized in the LDS church and worked towards repentance, would you then hire him?

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Probably not. Mainly because I have several female employees and who knows what kind of liability that would create should he strike again and I knowingly brought in the guy.

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Well, it sounds as if the campaign worker for Fred resigned... What I saw the guy said something to the effect that "the attention needs to go to Fred Thompson as a candidate and not my personal record from the past".

I guess if we were in ancient Rome, these guys who resign from "scandal" in campaign organizations would be expected to fall on their own sword...

I wonder if we could tally the bodycount thus far this election cycle? wink.gif

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