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General Conference Food STorage and Emerg Prep


One of my co-worker's dad is a regional representative for the church Welfare Program. My buddy passed a message along from his dad to me about the upcoming General Conference. There will be some talk on the topic, including a change to the program. 3 months food/water, build your savings, get out of debt and then continue to work on your preparedness. There will also be a directive to obey the laws of your land in regards to storage. He said to be paying attention this weekend.

This has changed on the site as well:
http://www.providentliving.org/channel/0,11677,1706-1,00.html



-- Edited by mirkwood at 14:26, 2007-03-27

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I'm having deja vu.

So, this is interesting. Giving us smaller bites to chew?

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I'm really sorry that the brethren feel the need to lower the amount we need to store. You know, Brigham Young encouraged the saints to have a 3 yr supply, later it was changed to 2 yrs, and even later to 1 yr. Now it's down to 3 months! When are the saints to going wake up!!

I can understand the need to counsel saints where they can't store more than a few months due to laws in their countries, but here in the good ole USA we as saints have dropped the ball in heeding the counsel given for yrs.

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Actualy he first counseled 7 years and eventually we got to one, soon to be three months. It is pretty sad. This is a huge change.

-- Edited by mirkwood at 21:18, 2007-03-27

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Why is it sad? If it's the will of the Lord, then we'll be blessed for obedience. If you already have a year supply, now you have a three month supply for yourself and for three of your home teaching families. How can that be a bad thing?

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I think what's sad is the apparent disregard of the counsel.

Maybe I'm a total pessimist, but when Pres. Hinckley challenged us to read the BoM a year or two back and finish it by the end of the year my first thought was, "Oh, how pathetic. We as members have to be TOLD to read the Book of Mormon now. Nice." It seems like since very few have a year's supply, they are modifying their counsel according to what we as a people can handle. What we're able to receive. God is merciful.

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RE: General Conference/Food Storage and Emerg Prep


Perhaps for those who felt 1 year was beyond their ability, perhaps 3 months will give them the hope that they can try.

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General Conference Food STorage and Emerg Prep


Whatever the case, this is a big change in "policy".

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This is really not any different than now. I wonder if they might be trying to break things up into smaller pieces in order to help people achieve it. Kind of like it is a difficult commandment for some so it is being structured in order to better help the saints. Seems reasonable. Stay out of debt, have a reserve, common sense and what has always been said one way or another.

Roper, the home teaching families can get their own storage, that's their job, not yours. I have 12-15 months worth, shooting for more, we are blessed for our obedience and if it is needed, I have it. What concerns me, though, are people will now say that they really only need three months and will slack, and not even keep a years worth.

Obeying the laws of the land, same thing as we have heard for many years. Wonder how this would apply to illegals, especially illegals who are members? Oh, wait, should I have said that?!

Btw, mirkwood, unless you already have surmised, as I imagine you have, I am truth10k on Zion's Camp.

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Valhalla wrote:

Roper, the home teaching families can get their own storage, that's their job, not yours.

Unless one of them is a 78 y.o. widow who lives in a small apartment, and her hometeacher has been prompted to do so.  wink

 



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Valhalla wrote:
Btw, mirkwood, unless you already have surmised, as I imagine you have, I am truth10k on Zion's Camp.


Yes, I knew you  were one of those beans n ammo people biggrin



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In college wards they encourage us to have a 1 month personal supply, and make sure to have a 72-hour kit. Unfortunately, now that I have the means to build up a food storage, my ward doesn't have a cannery person so I can't order it from the bishop's store-house. But I try to build up at least a little. I like to keep my cupboard full, and have actually had to live off of what I have for about a month, and I usually make it well, although I get tired of having no fruit or vegetables.

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Where do you live? If you are near a cannery you can go and do it yourself.

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Didn't hear anything in conference about them changing the admonition to have a year's supply. Maybe I had stepped out of the room or something. Was there anything to this effect? They did say to build up your storage a bit at a time if that's all you can do, but that's not unusual.

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The only thing I heard was from one of the members of the Presiding Bishopric.  He introduced the new pamphlets and mentioned the provident living site had been updated.  He didn't give any details.

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At the training for members of the 70 by the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve, one of the prophetic priorities taught, is for the members to get a 3 months supply.

yes, we are going to have some tough times, but things will also get better and better and better in the Church. We'll have folks persecute us, (if they weren't we might have cause to be worried) , we'll loose a few to apostacy, but our kids will see the day when folks will join our Church in droves!

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Are you a member of the 70?

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NOPE! But I know a number of them quite well.

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April Conference 2007 Preparedness Statements

Bishop Keith B. McMullin
Second Counselor in the Presiding Bishopric

We call upon priesthood bearers to store sufficient so that you and your family can weather the vicissitudes of life.

"Hearken, O ye people of my church. . . . Hearken ye people from afar; and ye that are upon the islands of the sea, listen together. . . .
"Prepare ye, prepare ye for that which is to come, for the Lord is nigh."
The doctrine of the Second Coming of the Messiah provides one of the great incentives to prepare and live right. Heavenly Father knows that promised rewards encourage His children to do works of righteousness and promised penalties create a dread of doing evil. Such are the revelations pertaining to the Second Coming of our Lord.
These revelations speak of signs and wonders on earth and in the heavens. They point to troublesome times and pending events vast in scope and duration. And most important, we receive these supernal promises:
"The Lord shall have power over his saints, and shall reign in their midst."
"Through my providence, notwithstanding the tribulation which shall descend upon you, . . . the church may stand independent above all other creatures beneath the celestial world."
And "if ye are prepared ye shall not fear."
Priesthood bearers are led by these promises to prepare themselves and their families for the Lord's appearing. There is no need to be anxious about events leading up to the Second Coming. Let us instead be filled with gratitude for our understanding of what lies ahead. Let us appreciate that we are in charge of our own world, being the Lord's agents over that which He has entrusted to us. The formula is simple: Be faithful. Unencumber your life. Lay up in store.
Be faithful. As priesthood bearers, we cultivate a gentle touch and kindly word. We are men who pray, who keep the Sabbath day holy, and who know the word of God. We tithe, fast, and give a generous fast offering. We keep our covenants and consecrate our lives to the building up of God's kingdom.
And, brethren, we lay up in store! By doing these things, "the Lord shall have power over his saints, and shall reign in [our] midst."
Unencumber your life. As men of God, we turn from excess to that which edifies, for "that which doth not edify is not of God."10 If dealings or involvements or pursuits or schedules detract from putting God first, we must pare back and unencumber our lives. If we have debts, we pay them and live debt free to the extent possible.
And, brethren, we lay up in store! Then, "through [the Lord's] providence, notwithstanding the tribulation . . . the church [and its people will] stand independent."12
Lay up in store. Wives are instrumental in this work, but they need husbands who lead out in family preparedness. Children need parents who instill in them this righteous tradition. They will then do likewise with their children, and their stores will not fail.
A cardinal principle of the gospel is to prepare for the day of scarcity. Work, industry, frugality are part of the royal order of life. Remember these words from Paul: "If any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."Seated before us are the three presiding high priests who constitute the First Presidency of the Church.
From President James E. Faust, Second Counselor, we hear: "Every father and mother are the family's storekeepers. They should store whatever their own family would like to have in the case of an emergency . . . [and] God will sustain us through our trials."From President Thomas S. Monson, First Counselor, we hear: "Many more people could ride out the storm-tossed waves in their economic lives if they had their year's supply of food . . . and were debt-free. Today we find that many have followed this counsel in reverse: they have at least a year's supply of debt and are food-free."From President Gordon B. Hinckley, the Lord's prophet, we hear:
"The best place to have some food set aside is within our homes. . . .
"We can begin ever so modestly. We can begin with a one week's food supply and gradually build it to a month, and then to three months. . . . I fear that so many feel that a long-term food supply is so far beyond their reach that they make no effort at all."Begin in a small way, . . . and gradually build toward a reasonable objective."
Inspired preparation rests on the foundation of faith in Jesus Christ, obedience, and a provident lifestyle. Members should not go to extremes, but they should begin.
We call upon priesthood bearers to store sufficient so that you and your family can weather the vicissitudes of life. Please see to it that those entrusted to your watchcare receive these two pamphlets entitled All Is Safely Gathered In. Exhort them to prepare now for rainy days ahead.Priesthood leaders, enlist the Relief Society in promoting family preparedness and homemaking. The women of the Church need your backing and will respond to your leadership.
Encourage our members to regularly put into their home storage a few wholesome, basic food items and some water that is safe to drink. They should save some money, if only a few coins each week. This modest approach will soon enable them to have several months' reserve. Over time they can expand these modest efforts into a longer-term supply by adding such essentials as grains, legumes, and other staples that will keep them alive in case they do not have anything else to eat.
As we do our very best, we can be confident that "the barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the cruse of oil fail." We shall enjoy greater wisdom, security, peace of mind, and personal well-being. We shall be prepared, and because we are prepared, we "shall not fear."In closing, I introduce to you the Luca and Patrizia Vaccarono family. They live in a small town near Rome, Italy. In a recent letter, they wrote:
"We decided after some experience that it is important to store the items we use. Sometimes we have to modify our habits in eating certain kinds of foods. . . .
"The feeling of peace and the desire to be faithful to the commandment given by the Lord through the modern prophet helps us feel the Holy Spirit, . . . to not be afraid, and to see that the signs of the time for the Second Coming of the Lord is a blessing and not something to fear. We rejoice in it. . . . It gives us the motivation to be faithful and endure to the end and to be saved and obtain eternal life."20
As a final thought, Brother Vaccarono writes: "I'm sorry for my English. I hope you understand what I tried to explain to you." Brother and Sister Vaccarono, we understand, for it is written in scripture: "Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths."21 In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.


Elder John B. Dickson
Of the Seventy

You have come into this world at a time that has been anticipated from the beginninga time prior to the Second Coming of the Lord, in which, on one hand, the gospel of Jesus Christ has been restored in its fulness and, on the other, there is great turmoil, confusion, and wickedness.



Elder David A. Bednar
Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

The basic lessons I learned about temporal self-reliance and provident living while picking and canning produce have blessed me throughout my life.


President Boyd K. Packer
Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

That revelation begins, "In consequence of evils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of conspiring men in the last days, I have warned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation" (D&C 89:4).

Bishop H. David Burton
Presiding Bishop

If these old walls could talk, they would remind us of the bleak, dark days of the Great Depression. They would recall the April 1936 general conference, when President Heber J. Grant announced the Church would inaugurate a Church security plan, later known as the Church welfare plan. Six months later he explained: "Our primary purpose was to set up . . . a system under which the curse of idleness would be done away with, the evils of a dole abolished, and independence, industry, thrift and self respect be once more established amongst our people. The aim of the Church is to help the people to help themselves. Work is to be re-enthroned as the ruling principle of the lives of our Church membership."4

President Thomas S. Monson
First Counselor in the First Presidency

In April of 1950, my wife Frances and I were in attendance at the Sunday afternoon session of general conference, held in this building. President George Albert Smith was the President of the Church, and in closing the conference, he delivered an inspiring and powerful message concerning the Resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Before he concluded his remarks, however, he sounded a prophetic warning. Said he: "It will not be long until calamities will overtake the human family unless there is speedy repentance. It will not be long before those who are scattered over the face of the earth by millions will die . . . because of what will come" (in Conference Report, Apr. 1950, 169). These were alarming words, for they came from a prophet of God.

Elder Joseph B. Wirthlin
Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

Brethren of the priesthood, I urge you to cultivate the gift of an obedient spirit. The Savior taught that "whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man. . . . And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man."
How do we know if we are wise or foolish? When we hear inspired counsel, we obey. That is the test of wise or foolish.What does it profit us if we listen to wise counsel and do not heed the words? Of what use is experience if we do not learn from it? What good are the scriptures if we do not cherish the words and incorporate them into our lives?
President Gordon B. Hinckley has promised that "[Heavenly Father] will shower down blessings upon those who walk in obedience to His commandments."



Elder Robert D. Hales
Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

When you are flying an airplane, if you change your position by just one degree at a time, your inner ear cannot detect the change. Brethren young and old, when we practice selective obedience, we change our position relative to the Lordand usually by only one degree at a time. As the deceptive forces of the adversary work on us, we cannot detect them, and we experience spiritual vertigo. While it may seem like we are going in a safe direction, we are in fact headed for disaster. In the preexistence, our decision to follow the Lord was all-or-nothing. Following that pattern through our mortal probation will get each of us back to our Heavenly Father.

President James E. Faust
Second Counselor in the First Presidency

You young men have a future with great promise. You are the beneficiaries of knowledge the world has never known before. This knowledge will allow you to contribute to the future of modern business, industry, agriculture, and the professions. You may be among those who will defend a way of life on the battlefields. You will be among those who spread the principles of the gospel in the world and help the Church grow.

Elder Henry B. Eyring
Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

The scriptures make the danger of delay clear. It is that we may discover that we have run out of time. The God who gives us each day as a treasure will require an accounting. We will weep, and He will weep, if we have intended to repent and to serve Him in tomorrows which never came or have dreamt of yesterdays where the opportunity to act was past. This day is a precious gift of God. The thought "Someday I will" can be a thief of the opportunities of time and the blessings of eternity.

Elder Russell M. Nelson
Of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

Now, at this closing session of general conference, I too speak on repentance. I do so because the Lord has commanded His servants to cry repentance unto all people. The Master has restored His gospel to bring joy to His children, and repentance is a crucial component of that gospel.
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Hey that looks familiar!!! wink



At this link you can see where I put the bold for emphasis:

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