If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! - Samuel Adams
How about a little gentlemanly bet between us - the person who is wrong has to endure merciless teasing on this thread by the person who was right.
I'm in on that. Except for the gentleman part.
Although, I'm not sure it's fair to penalize a guy who's obviously so insane that he's ranting about streets in French. It sounds vaguely...suicidal. I think he's anticipating his impending comeuppance.
I consider the case against Harry or his scar being horcruxes well proven. However, I ran across a couple of interesting points recently and thought I would post them. First, if we assume that a Horcrux has to be destroyed, then that contradicts the prophecy in the book. It says "neither can live while the other survives." Well, if Harry is a horcrux, and he sneaks up behind Voldemort and AKs him, then Voldemort will live precisely because Harry is still surviving. That directly contradicts the wording of the prophecy. If Harry (or his scar) was a horcrux, and it could be removed without killing him, don't you think Dumbledore would have done it while he was still alive? Also, when Harry had the dream about Ron's father getting attacked, Dumbledore mumbled something about "in essence divided" while his silver thingy showed him a snake splitting into two. Obviously this means that there were two essences (bits of soul) of Voldemort in that snake. If Harry (or his scar) was a horcrux, wouldn't there have been three?
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If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! - Samuel Adams
I think things will get interesting when Voldemort is dead and Harry is left to fight the horcrux that is himself. Then Dumbledores INSISTENCE that no matter how they are born, they have a CHOICE will make sense... and then you will cower with fear at my prescience.
--Ray
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You miss the point. He can't fight a horcrux within himself after finishing off Voldemort because at that point Voldemort would still live precisely because Harry survived. JKR said she worded that very carefully. Besides, if Voldemort is running around as Vapormort because his physical body was killed while a horcrux remained, they're gonna have a lot of running around to do to find him and finally finish him off. I don't think that the author has written an encyclopedia sized work.
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If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! - Samuel Adams
I had previously held the opinion that Harry Potter pushed kids into witchcraft. I changed my mind many years ago (see, Bok, I can change my mind ). But, as with Dungeons and Dragons and oh so many other things, those who already had a weakness in that area can use this as an excuse to grease the slippery slope. I no longer think Harry Potter leads kids into witchcraft. But I think there are kids who are curious about witchcraft already who get too interested in Harry Potter. Namely, I saw an ad on one of the Harry Potter sites I visit advertising "roleplaying" material, such as costumes and "real" wands. I think that's taking it a bit too far. I have no problem reading the Harry Potter books. I have no problem with kids being interested in them. I do have a problem with kids confusing the line between fantasy and reality.
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If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! - Samuel Adams
Wanna buy a "real" wand. I'll sell you one! Heck, I got a whole truck load I can sell ya. There are no guarantees that they will work but I'm selling them. I'm also selling time machines, the crystals are sold separately though!
Ray, did you watch the video of the Star Wars kid and think, "There, but for the grace of God, go I."? BTW, they've announced the page length of the american version. It will be (if I remember correctly) 784 pages. That's not as long as the fifth book, but it's still pretty long. The fact that they've announced the page length means that they've finished editing it. I really think that they should have chosen me to be an editor. I can keep a secret! I think it very likely that someone, somewhere along the process (either in the printing company, or one of the bookstores, etc.) will read the ending and announce it on the internet. I plan to stop reading harry potter sites before the book comes out. Here's an ethical question: if you worked somewhere along the process where you had access to the book, would you read it, even if there was a rule against it?
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If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! - Samuel Adams
Maybe I already HAVE read it... Maybe that's why I'm trying to keep you from embarrassing yourself with your silly little theories that have nothing to do with the fact that Harry or his Scar is the last Horcrux!?
--Ray
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I'm not slow; I'm special. (Don't take it personally, everyone finds me offensive. Yet somehow I manage to live with myself.)
My wife's comment upon hearing this news was, "Darn, I was hoping that as I read the next Harry Potter book, it would destroy the environment around me."
--Ray
-- Edited by rayb at 23:53, 2007-03-21
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I'm not slow; I'm special. (Don't take it personally, everyone finds me offensive. Yet somehow I manage to live with myself.)
My wife's comment upon hearing this news was, "Darn, I was hoping that as I read the next Harry Potter book, it would destroy the environment around me."
--Ray
-- Edited by rayb at 23:53, 2007-03-21
It sounds like your wife's sense of humor is similar to yours. It's good to share a sense of humor with your spouse.
I know I'll sound like a forest burning heathen for saying this, but I'm not terribly concerned about the recycled content. Most wood used for paper is grown for that specific purpose. So it's not like they're clearcutting old growth trees for the percentage of the paper that isn't recycled.
I'm not against recycling either. But I guess my main reaction to news like this is "whoop de doo".
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If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! - Samuel Adams