Where was the Garden of Eden?

Roper · Senior Bucketkeeper

Where was the Garden of Eden?

TitusTodd · Senior Member

I've read something on that at some time but can't remember where. I'll have to do some searching. How did Moses know it was near the Euphrates? I don't think it was by personal sight but by vision and he may have assumed the river was the Euphrates.

bokbadok · Senior Bucketkeeper

We have historical precedent as one possible explanation for this um, precedent.

When a people emmigrate from an area, they often name their cities and geographical features after similar geographical features from their homeland, as well as political leaders from their homeland. Hence, New York (formerly New Amsterdam), Maryland, Georgia, Nephi, Bountiful...

It seems plausible that the descendents of Adam, upon arriving in the 'new' Euphrates river valley, named the river after the Euphrates from the land of their fathers.

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

I always understood Bok's explanation to be the most plausible. That there was a river called Euphrates in Adam's time, and when the Noah-ites arrived in the areas of UR they named the rivers there after the lands they knew in Adam's time... They may not have even been aware of how far they'd traveled, due to the flood. Dunno...

Much of the flood is difficult to take literally for most folk...

--Ray

arbilad · Head Chef

I do take it literally, though. There is nothing in the Bible account to indicate that it was allegory. I don't understand how all those animals fit on the boat, but then again, I'm ready to acknowledge that I don't know everything. Maybe the Lord created a large pocket dimension in the Ark so that the animals would fit, but told Noah not to record that part so that we could have a trial of faith.

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

The Bible is not our sole source of scripture as Latter-day Saints.

Does the Bible contain the fulness of the gospel? Many people think so, but I think we are safe in saying that from the time of Joseph Smith, we know that many plain and precious things were lost.

Perhaps the context that in antedeluvian times, another mighty river was named Euphrates as opposed to the postdeluvian times river we have known as the Euphrates over the past several thousand years.

If you think about it, decendants of Noah could have very well named the modern Euphrates for some of the same reasons Pharoah set up Egypt... according to the Pearl of Great Price, we learn that this kingdom was set up to imitate the priesthood because for whatever reason, the people there were not entitled to the priesthood. Happens all the time when you have folks try to imitate the truth with a counterfeit. Maybe the modern day Euphrates name was the result of another group working on a counterfeit basis... after all, what sprang up there? Babylon.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

Turn on the psychodelic lights folks. It's time for some Iron Butterfly:

In-a-gadda-da-vida honey,
don'tcha know that I love you?
In-a-gadda-da-vida baby,
don'tcha know that I'll always be true?

Oh won'tcha come with me,
and take my hand?
Oh won'tcha come with me,
and walk this land?

Please take my hand...

Let me tell ya now.
In-a-gadda-da-vida honey,
don'tcha know that I love you?
In-a-gadda-da-vida baby,
don'tcha know that I'll always be true?

Oh won'tcha come with me,
and take my hand?
Oh won'tcha come with me,
and walk this land?

Please take my hand...

Let me tell ya.

Two,three,four!

In-a-gadda-da-vida honey,
don'tcha know that I love you?
In-a-gadda-da-vida baby,
don'tcha know that I'll always be true?

Roper · Senior Bucketkeeper

I liked how the Simpson's returned the title and lyrics to it's original intent. Give the Granny on the pipe organ some O2, folks. It's time for I. Ron Butterfly:

In the Garden of Eden, honey...

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

That was a good episode...

Almost as good as when Homer drinks melted wax so he can eat those super hot halucinatory peppers at the Springfield chili cook off...

Pt314 · Senior Member

When you look at the footnotes in the Book of Moses you see the explanation that the names of the rivers around the Garden of Eden were also applied to the rivers in mesopotamia.

Adam Ondi Ahman is where Adam blessed his posterity, and Jesus Christ will come before the Second Coming. It probably is relatively near to the location of the Garden of Eden.

As to the flood, I don't know exactly what is supposed to be taken literally (just like many other parts in the Old Testament), however that doesn't mean that I don't think it didn't happen, or that Noah wasn't a prophet. It's one of the things that I am looking forward to learning about when all things are revealed.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

Pt314 wrote:

When you look at the footnotes in the Book of Moses you see the explanation that the names of the rivers around the Garden of Eden were also applied to the rivers in mesopotamia.

Adam Ondi Ahman is where Adam blessed his posterity, and Jesus Christ will come before the Second Coming. It probably is relatively near to the location of the Garden of Eden.

As to the flood, I don't know exactly what is supposed to be taken literally (just like many other parts in the Old Testament), however that doesn't mean that I don't think it didn't happen, or that Noah wasn't a prophet. It's one of the things that I am looking forward to learning about when all things are revealed.

Whoa.....That's Deep TP. I'm having a hard time concentrating right now due to the Tomacolatte, Iron Butterfly, and the psychodelic lights.

LEVE · Veteran Member

Where was the Garden of Eden? That's the easiest Gospel Question I've ever heard.

The answer is:

306 South Pleasant Street, Independence, MO

How do I know? It was the address of my Mission home in 1970-72, right in between the Independence Visitors Center and the Independence Ward Building and about 600' from the Temple Lot cornerstone.

Is that close enough? Note, this is not to be confused with Adam-ondi-Ahman.