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06/10/11 Church positon on immigration

From the Deseret News Friday 10 June

"As published Friday morning on the LDS Church's "Newsroom" web site, the immigration statement seen as reinforcing and clarifying its long-standing position on the issue underscores the following points:

"The LDS Church discourages its members of the Mormon faith from entering any country without legal documentation.


"The underlying concern of immigration issues "is how we treat each other as children of God.


"Immigration issues need to be resolved at the federal government level.


"State legislation that focuses only on enforcement "is likely to fall short of the high moral standard of treating each other as children of God."


"The church supports efforts "where undocumented immigrants are allowed to square themselves with the law and continue to work without this necessarily leading to citizenship."

"In a related statement issued simultaneously Friday morning, the LDS Church reiterated the First Presidency teaching that undocumented status shouldn't alone prevent an otherwise worthy Latter-day Saint from entering the church's temple or being ordained to the priesthood.
"The secondary statement also underscored each bishop's role in making appropriate judgments regarding a member's church privileges and discouraged Latter-day Saints from judging fellow congregation members."


I am finding among my LDS friends and acquaintances dismay and frustration, some expressed in emails, which follow:


"The statement has conflicting items within it .... there seems either an ignorance or unwillingness, to mention the larger agenda of global governance .... we have heard statements by H. Verlan Andersons son, and others about how the "brethren" are not going to "tweak the nose of the dragon" .... too late .... but still, one does not have to appear to approve of a wrong policy, either."


"I find it interesting and disconcerting that the Church would state "The LDS Church discourages its members of the Mormon faith from entering any country without legal documentation." but nothing about those illegally in this or in any other country to leave until they can be properly documented."


"I want an official statement signed by the first presidency ..... I am reminded by J. Ruben Clarks comment about how therell be many "holes" in the membership, even "high up" as things deteriorate. There are too many liberals corrupting within the Church, I personally know of some and look at the homosexual conflict, how many "good" members are clearly taking a wrong stance on that issue."

"I just don't understand what is driving the Church to get in the middle of this. It makes no sense. I'm going to bed. I need to sleep this one off."


In late 2006 or early 2007, Elder Eyring, speaking to a large group of family history and church history mssionaries in SLC, said he had just come from a meeting with the First Presidency in which he learned that the First Presidency had earlier that morning discussed the immigration situation and concluded that it was "going to continue and we will just have to live with it."   So even though I believe illegal immigration has been and is being fomented for sinister purposes, I guess I'm just going to have to live with it.



-- Edited by lundbaek on Saturday 11th of June 2011 09:16:27 PM


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It has been suggested by someone unknown to me but with whim I agree on this point that:  "One of the goals of the Satanic Psychopaths is to promote illegal immigration as a means for overthrowing the American worker's high standard of living. In other words, illegal immigration is designed to eliminate the American middle class, the globalists primary enemy and the only opposition left that can oppose their Satanic Plans.   Every good Mormon should know this."

This same person asks:   "Is it compassionate to have American taxpayers foot the bill for individuals that are here illegally (in Utah) that have to pay for the Social Services, Medical Care and Education of those that do not pay taxes? Is it compassionate to tell a good American Mormon to live on unemployment or charity while you give his job away to a low paid illegal immigrant?"


My thinking is that  his is part of the price we must now pay for ignoring and mocking the warnings of Presidents David O. McKay, J. Reuben Clark, Ezra Taft Benson, and scorning the efforts of people like W. Cleon Skousen, H. Verlan Anderson and his oldest son, Hartman Recktor Jr., Jerome Horowitz, Jerreld Newquist, Jack Monnett, Joel Skousen, Rick Dalton, Glenn Kimber, Gary Allen, Robert Welch, Dr. Dennis Cuddy, Chuck Baldwin, Ron Paul, and certainly others I'm not even aware of.


-- Edited by lundbaek on Sunday 12th of June 2011 10:41:43 AM


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I think the church's statement provides much-needed guidance.  Immigration is a policy issue for the federal government.  The way we treat others is a moral issue for the church. Where those two issues intersect, we should speak and act as disciples of Jesus Christ.


The ability to qualify for, receive, and act on personal revelation is the single most important skill that can be acquired in this life. - Julie Beck

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The statement certainly caught me by surprise.

We live and learn and change our attitudes accordingly.

I just think we are much closer to Our Savior coming back than any of us realize....

... and I imagine I'll be watching it all unfold from the other side.

no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing... the truth of God will go forth till it has penetrated every website, sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished and the great Jehovah shall say the work is done
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