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lundbaek · Profuse Pontificator

My understanding of Revelation 13: 11-17, focus on Verse 16, is that "the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name" will be introduced after the demise of the first beast that will make war with the saints and overcome them and then be somehow wiped out, and during the time of "another beast" introduced in Verse 11.

It appears that the first beast increases its power until it dominates the whole earth for 3 ½ years or 42 months. (Rev. 13:5). Then it turns on the saints (Rev. 13:7) and is wiped out. But John never tells us how this is done. His only commentary is Revelation 13:10.

A cleansing of America and wiping out of the first dictatorship is described in 3 Nephi 16: 10, 12; 20: 14 - 20 and by Joseph Smith in Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 17 of the 1971 edition.

It appears that after this cleansing, all of the LDS are gathered to America. (D&C 45:71). Also those are invited who want peace and do not want to be drafted into the second dictatorship. (D&C 45: 68 - 69).

America is then sealed off from the rest of the world by violent seas so people can neither fly nor sail to reach Zion. (D&C 61:15 - 16). Luke saw these "roaring seas" (Luke 21: 25 - 26).

So at this point I assume the "mark" will not affect people living in America. There may be other scriptures that tell a different senario that I am not aware of. I'm not reall into this. I should live so long?

LEVE · Veteran Member

So at this point I assume the "mark" will not affect people living in America.I'd admit that I'm not sure about that statement. However, Heavenly Father has always let us know how to eschew evil. It has been the Word of Wisdom, avoiding drugs and it's revolving culture; the list goes on and on. These warnings have always come 10 to 15 years before the problem is firmly rooted in the general population.

Of one thing I am sure is that when the time comes that the mark is offered the Prophet will have told us long before to avoid such things. All we have to do is listen to the Prophet and obey the counsel given and be prepared for the earthly consequences of our decisions.

-- Edited by LEVE on Wednesday 22nd of April 2009 07:29:57 AM