Man in Colorado shot for being Catholic

arbilad · Head Chef

Man in Colorado shot for being Catholic

lundbaek · Profuse Pontificator

As I understood the report from the link, the victim being Catholic may have not influenced the shooter. The shooter may have intended to shoot somebody regardless of religion, and may have questioned the victim's religion as a way of saying "Say your prayers." It seems strange to me that the perp shot only one person, and not others as well.

LoudmouthMormon · Profuse Pontificator

There's a time and a place to make yourself a martyr. There may be places on this earth where His representatives may need to die for their beliefs, but I don't think it's in America right now. Subject to veto by the spirit of course, I think my plan would be to deter, avoid, or stop this guy - not to answer his question and stand there.

LM

-- Edited by LoudmouthMormon at 08:47, 2009-01-01

-- Edited by LoudmouthMormon at 08:48, 2009-01-01

hiccups · Future Queen in Zion

Here, here, LM.

arbilad · Head Chef

LM has a point. But I guess what I'm saying is that I hope, if the situation ever comes up and I must answer, that I honestly answer that I'm LDS. But LM is very correct that you don't just passively stand there when a gunman threatens you. Just like I dislike in movies when the good guy puts down his gun hoping that the bad guy will stop threatening him and/or the hostage.

hiccups · Future Queen in Zion

I get that Arbi, but I do wonder if it's not better to just work our best at being a good saint and then let any defining moments taken care of themselves as they come. You mentioned movies... I think movies can get us into the mode of thinking those intense and defining moments are somehow more important than what we do with our lives day by day and when no one is looking. No one cheers when we get up day after day and quietly take care of our families and/or others. No one cheers when we read our scriptures and pray earnestly. What I might say to a mentally unstable / angry person when challenged would mean far less than knowing my children have been taught correct principles and have seen me living them.

So, I'm less concerned about if I'd die for my beliefs than making sure that here and now I'm living for them.

arbilad · Head Chef

Hiccups, I think they're one and the same thing. If you're not doing your everyday things to live up to the gospel standards, to teach your kids, etc, you're not going to be up to the moment if and when it comes. If you don't have the faith to live the principles of the gospel, you wouldn't have the faith to be up for such a moment.