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"Store what you eat, eat what you store"


I finally found specific, official repudiation of the "Store what you eat, eat what you store" myth! Granted, it should have been self evident from prophetic statements like "Only store the very basics necessary to sustain life", but evidently many consider "store what you eat, eat what you store" to be doctrine anyway.
Anyway, I was reviewing the price list of the Denver cannery. On the price list it mentioned "Regarding longer term storage, avoid teaching 'Store what you eat, eat what you store'". Now, the head of the Denver cannery also repudiated that false doctrine, but it's nice to have printed verification of it.
I've just met so many people that meant well, but weren't able to get their year's supply together because they couldn't afford to "store what you eat". Wheat, rice, and beans may not be exciting, but they'll keep you alive, and most people can afford it over a period of a few years. Whereas I have only ever met one person who had a year's supply of "normal" food.

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Well...that's why there's the second part of the axiom. "Eat what you store." You should be eating that wheat, beans, and rice.

There should be a balance. Store some of what you would normally like to eat, and store some of the long-lasting, cheap, life-sustaining stuff. And eat both.

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That's pretty much what the new guidelines are; store a year of the simple stuff, like wheat, beans, and rice. Store 3 months of the normal stuff.
And you're right, it's a good idea to eat wheat, beans, and rice, because it's healthy, it's cheap, and it will get you used to that diet in case you ever have to live off of food storage.

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Food storage Tuesday works for us. Helps us rotate, helps train us on how to make food out of food storage, and  gets us used to the taste of reconsituted whatever. We're not purists, and we augment with stuff we don't store.

Living off of food storage would entail a bunch of "dang, I sure miss eating x, y, and z". But we'll be able to live off it.

LM

-- Edited by LoudmouthMormon at 11:40, 2008-02-12

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Another possible reason for the 3 month supply is it will take your body 3 months to adjust to just eating what we refer to as long term foods.

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Have lots o' tp for that "adjustment" period, folks. thumbsup.gif

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And don't forget to store some imodium. nana.gif

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And Gas-X

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Back to the original topic, I'm very glad they are discouraging teaching "store what you eat, eat what you store." Otherwise, it will be the end of the world as we know it before I get around to learning what to do with wheat and THEN buying some.

I've recently come to realize that there are some very important benefits of having long-term storage. (Notice I didn't say year's supply.) One can have a year's supply in ordinary food, but most of it would require very frequent rotation and management. So, say life gets really busy and crazy for a couple months before an event that requires dipping into the food storage. I'm already going in with a disadvantage because I've let things slide during that crazy time. I know me well enough to know this would happen. Also, to have enough veggies in my year's supply would require buying (and then eating) way more canned vegetables than I would prefer to eat in a year and then eating them before they expire. Having them in my 3-month supply, I can get enough for 3 months and then spend a year and a half rotating through them. I also like the flexibilty to use my freezer in my 3-month supply. Most of my meat is in the freezer. (I have canned meat as well.) The point is that if it comes to eating the long-term storage, hopefully, I'll have a garden going as well, but either way I'll be eating to survive, which is really very different than the eating normally. I love the do it and ignore it for 20+ years factor of long-term storage. (It might not turn out that I ignore it for 20 years, but knowing I could is comforting somehow.)

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Yeah, 50 years is even better! That wheat's just tucked away being ready...

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So, maybe the advice isn't so officially repudiated after all.  On Providentliving.org's Family Home Storage pamphlet, we're counseled to do it step by step.

Step one is to "Build a small supply of food that is part of your normal, daily diet."  (In other words, store what you eat.)

Step two is drinking water, step three is a financial reserve.

Step four is to "gradually build a supply of food that will last a long time and that you can use to stay alive, such as wheat, white rice, and beans." (In other words, the necessities of life.)

LM

-- Edited by LoudmouthMormon at 14:17, 2008-04-28

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Hmm, well, it says"Regarding longer term storage, avoid teaching 'Store what you eat, eat what you store'".

So, shorter term storage can be for store what you eat, eat what you store. nod.gif

I think that's where the important distinction was for me. I used to tell ppl I sure as heck wasn't going to buy that much wheat if I didn't have any idea of what to do with it. I think I also had no intention of getting that much because I didn't like wheat that much. This was a real stumbling block for me. Hearing that I don't have to eat it unless the stuff hits the fan helped me a lot. Cuz when the stuff hits I will eat it and be happy to have it. thumbsup.gif


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I agree.

It all came together when I read the Little House books. They almost starved to death one winter - the train with the supplies couldn't get through, and the family did the last several months on johnny cakes - eventually just one per person per day. They were down to their last johnny cake, and pa was about to go slaughter one of their cows, when the train showed up.

If they had raised corn or rice or barley, it would have been one hunk of cornpone per day, or one bowl of rice, or one barleycake. When we're faced with eating food storage or starving, most of us will pick food storage.

I'm thinking that's what the longer term storage is for - to make sure we survive through the winter (or economy collapse, or bird flu pandemic, or endless tornadoes and earthquakes, or whatever it is). The Little House books painted a bleak picture. Little Laura wrote about how "her head felt stupid". All they did was hunker down around their stove and survive. They ached. Pa lost the ability to play his fiddle because his fingers were shaking too much. There were no more fun times - just the bleak warmth coming from the stove and their one johnny cake each. But then the winter ended, the train came, and everyone got on with their lives and the fun times came back.

LM

-- Edited by LoudmouthMormon at 16:04, 2008-04-28

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Thing is, the Ingall's were used to eating johnnycake. What will happen in a family that considers Wonderbread, Frosted Flakes, and Ice Cream staples? I could see some younger children, especially, turning their noses up at whole wheat bread or cornbread or soup. Actually I do see it, in my own family at every meal. And we don't eat wonderbread or frosted flakes. The prospect of trying to switch from a modern American diet to "frontier foods" scares me a little. So I keep cooking "that yucky stuff" occasionally so that at least they'll have seen it before.

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Bok is right, for many it would be a drastic switch in diet. In a day when there are people who don't even know how to shop at the store for themselves, how many people are going to know what to do with wheat? How many people are going to even think of taking the basic step of soaking wheat to make it more edible? And I hope that you have plans for what to do when your gastrointestinal tract objects to the sudden influx of whole grain.
I've been sneaking more whole grain into our diet lately. Some quinoa, some corn meal (both in the stew I made yesterday), and we're going to start making our own bread soon out of various grains. Because even though my family is much more used to cooking from scratch, even we're going to have some adjusting to do when the time comes to live off of food storage.

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Good points. And the goal is to introduce more whole wheat into my family's diet. I was just saying that until I understood that I didn't have to do it all right away, I didn't want to do it at all. Somehow, knowing that I can just get my wheat and ignore it for a bunch of years makes me want to get it and start to use a bit of it too. Funny how that is.

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I just had deja vu! There was this family on my mission that put wheat in EVERYTHING, I kid you not. It was the weirdest thing we'd ever seen. There was also cat hair in pretty much everything... This whacko also kissed my companion on the lips!

You ain't seen me crazy yet! angered.gif

-- Edited by Cocobeem at 00:58, 2008-04-29

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Well, if that's the kind of thing eating more wheat causes, I'm definitely not feeding it to MrHic. nana.gif

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Yeah, that's why my wheat is ready for the 100 year long haul. thumbsup.gif

Keep sane! Eat Ravioli! headbang.gif

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I just thought of a new reason to not say it. It might just discourage every man from joking that their gut IS their food storage. (Do women make this joke? Because I've only heard men do it.)

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Well, what are you thinking? You just got rid of yours! biggrin.gif

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That's why I finally got REAL food storage, duh.

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