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Emergency Preparedness Fustration


I am the executive secretary for our ward and I was in Bishopric meeting Sunday as we were discussing the stake callendar.  I pointed out that the Stake was having an emergency preparedness and emergency communications meeting in February and that we needed to send the ward communications specialist.  I got blank stares from the Bishop.  "Who?", he asked.  I told him he needed to send whoever is in charge of the emergency communications for our stake and indicated it might also be the ward emergency preparedness person.  "Well can't you and brother Jones cover things, you guys do that Ham Radio stuff anyway."  I pointed out that yes we did do that but that this was more than just some Ham Radio operators and that the stake emergency ham radio group already met once weekly at the stake center.

Then the real shocker.  "Well who is our emergency preparedness person for the ward?", asked the Bishop.  After some thinking one of the counsellors said, "Oh it's brother Johnson."  Now I'm getting really panicked because this brother hasn't been active in over a year.  Most recently he was hospitalized and nearly died.  Now I'm thinking at this point they would say something about calling someone else for this.  Nope.  Their only response was once again that brother Jones and myself could handle it.  I pointed out that we would both be there but there was more to this than a couple of guys who have radios and FCC licenses.  That there were other ways to communicate and that we had no idea what would happen in an emergency for the stake to communicate.  More blank stares.  "Well how else would you communicate in an emergency?", they asked.  I pointed out that in the past the Aaronic Priesthood/Scouts actually had drills where they would act as bike curriors to carry and deliver messages to various parts of the ward so that Priesthood leadership could communicate in certain emergencies.  More blank stares.

Now I'm really nervous because I assumed there was already a plan or proceedure in place.  This is the same stake where an entire town and ward was completely cut off from power, communications, their own homes, etc due to earthquake damage.  People could not go into their homes and were basically camped out on the lawn.  Only emergency personel were permitted in and out.  It was a total dissaster.  This happened in the early 80s but you would think with Katrina, 9-11, and the potential for a whole list of other dissasters there would be something in place, some proceedure book, some sort of plan so the saints at least on the leadership level would have some idea of what to do beyond their own personal preparedness.

This comes on the heels of a meeting at the beginning of December where we were asked for input for ideas for what to do on the fifth sunday of some months for Priesthood and Relief Society.  I suggested it might be a good idea to discuss emergency preparedness as it had been several years since any such thing had been done in the ward.  I was informed that it was a good idea but others suggested teaching other things.  Nothing was ever set or decided on as far as emergency preparedness.  We did go through the first half of the first chapter of the new Joseph Smith book for the first fifth sunday which seemed sort of redundant as we already had the schedule for lessons from the book for the whole year and chapter one would be covered the next week.

I just do not understand with all the dissasters that hit various parts of the country including our own state why there seems to be little concern for these sorts of things.  Just in the last couple years in our own state we have had fires and major storm damage that displaced people from their homes, cut communications, and caused huge problems.  Storms in the north of the state caused huge power and communications issues.  No power, no phones, closed roads, etc for weeks in some areas.  Then we had huge wildfires that caused mass evacuations in the southern part of the state.  Just this week there were massive floods, mudlides, and severe storm conditions that resulted in road closures, property damage, power outages, and communications issues in the south part of the state.  But all is well in our part of Zion.

Frankly, I'm not so concerned about my own family.  We are pretty much ready in most areas and in the areas we are lacking, we are on track to get them done soon.  We also do not live in the city where the ward is located but an outlying rural area so if something did happen, in most respects we probably would be on our own anyway.  I do worry though about my friends and other family in other parts of this ward though.  I for the life of me cannot understand why things like getting a girls camp director or chorister in relief society seem to be getting more attention than this.

Am I just crazy or is anyone else seeing this in their ward?

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Not my ward. But the bishop believes very strongly in preparedness and turned me loose on the ward. Would you like a copy of the Ward Emergency Response Plan that I wrote for our ward to give to your bishop? You are more then welcome to use it if you want.

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Not a lot happening in my branch with it, but most do something and most are armed. We are a rural branch. I don't like that our EP coordinator is an 83 year old woman who does not really understand it. Our BP is afraid to let me do it, thinks I will scare everyone and tell everyone to buy guns, thing is, many people in the branch hunt, have farms, don't trust the government anyway, and have at least basics stored away. I think I mostly just scare him.

I am waiting for one of those things where they have you bring you BOBs and everybody see how others do it. I want to show up with my ALICE gear and web gear, and my M4gery and G19! That would be fun!

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Valhalla wrote:

Our BP is afraid to let me do it, thinks I will scare everyone and tell everyone to buy guns, thing is, many people in the branch hunt, have farms, don't trust the government anyway, and have at least basics stored away. I think I mostly just scare him.



It's the long hair, beard, and crazy eyes that scare him Val!

And I would love a copy of your ward's plan Mirk.  Should I PM you my email or do you have it posted on the web?  Let me know.

After further reflection I think the lack of concern for emergency preparedness is more symptimatic of the disorganized nature of the bishopric at this point.  They are good guys just going a million different directions.  One of the things as executive secretary I was put in charge of was building keys.  I was assured there was an inventory list of who had what and asked for it over and over and over again.  No list has yet emerged.  I finally got a guy to use his key to let me into the room where the key box is so I could get my own key to the room that locked key box was in.  They insist the old executive had a list but he moved and no one can find one.  After practically pleading for someone to please tell me where it is I finally gave up.  So now I'm collecting keys but issueing none.  If you get released or change callings I get your key but the new guy gets nothing because I have no way of determining who has what.  No one seems to care.

I'm also responsible for the online ward callendar on the website but no one knows who can give me access to changing it or how to do it.  They don't seem too concerned about it at all.  I just know that there is no possible way that I can do it without someone who already has the codes to get in there and set me up.

I'm afraid to make appointments for the bishop because I don't know if they will happen.  I had a couple folks mad because I set up the appointments and they showed but he talked to someone else who didn't have an appointment nearly the whole time.  Of course they were mad at me not him for wasting their time.

When I went to training at the stake I was the only executive secretary to show up.  First thing they asked is if I had a copy of the manual (book 1) and that each ward had 4 copies.  I was told a few weeks earlier that I didn't get one by the bishopric.  So I went back and told them the stake asked.  Turned out that the ward clerk had it.  Still haven't seen it yet.  The rest of the training was to pretty much do whatever the Bishop asks you to do.  It is very hard for me coming from a business background to do things by the seat of my pants that should be organized and done a certain way.  But the Bishop is happy so I guess I must be doing something right.biggrin

My biggest thing is trying to understand the system.  In case of emergency what are my duties as home teacher in the ward?  What are my duties as executive secretary?  Who does what?  The time to figure that stuff out isn't when the dissaster happens.  It is now. wink



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Our ward has a pretty good plan, I think. We've all got colored flags to tie on the doorknob, and we've had a drill.

My Dad in a nearby city is in a Stk Presidency, and he was telling me about how they were getting ham radio licensing training set up, in addition to other emergency communication prep.

So there's stuff going on here. Keep at it. The squeaky wheel gets things done.

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That is forward thinking on their part Janey, that is cool.

Duke: PM me your email and I will send it. I don't have it posted online.

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While the radio thing is important, it seems that one thing that does not get discussed is that if there is no power, the repeaters will not be working, thus greatly limiting the range of many radios to short distance and line of sight.

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Most repeaters in our area are solar. The one we use for our stake emergency nets is solar only and completely off the grid.  The solar runs the repeater during the day as well as charge the batteries for night time use.  Even with a 5 watt handheld and a decent home brew antenna, most of us can talk to each other in the stake without the repeater.  With a $130 mobile rig that runs 50 Watts we can cover even more area than the repeater.   The repeater we use only sends about 18 watts anyway so 50 can get you a lot further.  In our Stake Ham Radio Group we even built an antenna and got a radio for the Bishop's storehouse to facilitate communication with them and the stake.  With the elimination of the morse code requirement for all ham radio licenses you can even easilly get High Frequency privileges now and talk worldwide if you want without the repeater.  Some High Frequency privileges are now even available to those holding the Technician class license.  Here are some articles on Ham radio being used in emergencies.  I particularly like the first one where the Red Cross details actual examples of Ham Radio being used in a recent emergency.  The advantage of Ham Radio is you are not dependent on the grid, it is free, and it works when all else fails.  You can even build your own gear if you want.  We have a guy in the stake that purchased a radio then put together a dissaster rig with a large power supply, emergency antenna, etc that all fits in one of those Camel water packs.  He can put it on and go.  There are plans online to make ham antennas from pretty simple supplies.  Also, FCC rules permit broadcasting on any frequency in order to obtain emergency assistance.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/12476321.html

http://www.seasidesignal.com/articles/2007/12/13/news/local_news/doc476154dbdc8a8470648035.txt

 

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-- Edited by Duke of Mirth at 10:25, 2008-01-29

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