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Hot Air Balloon

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Genetic Variant common among Native Americans and Siberians.


I think we've talked about this before.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-11/uomh-gss112607.php


So this article talks about a common genetic marker found in native populations across the Americas. they talk about a common "genetic variant" that is only found in Siberia.

My question for those of you who know anything about genetics is how do you trace origin from Siberia? How do they know that the variant isn't simply a result of someone from the Americas settling in Siberia, rather than assuming it proves that everyone originated from Siberia?

I mean the presence of a genetic marker says nothing about the sequence of events, does it?

Anyhow I was curious, and figured I'd appeal to any remaining brainiacs... to see if you all had any insight...

--Ray

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Go forth and immerse thyself.


Especially relevant are "Detecting Lehi's Genetic Signature: Possible, Probable, or Not?", and "The Problematic Role of DNA Testing in Unraveling Human History".

LM
(not a brainiac, just know how to read)



-- Edited by LoudmouthMormon at 10:18, 2007-11-28

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Can't you sum it up for those of us who hate reading? :)

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Nope - you need a braniac for that. How do you trace origin from Siberia? Best I can do is "It's harder than it looks".

I think it also has something to do with a concept called your "lucky ancestor" Guys have DNA passed from father to son. Gals have DNA from their Mothers. So, genetically speaking, your maternal grandfather is out of luck, unless your wife has brothers (and vice-versa for your paternal grandmother).

So, the guy from Siberia could marry all the daughters of Lehi he wanted, and as long as he had only sons, Lehi's DNA would dissapear without a trace. This is not only possible, but the most plausible explanation, if you assume Lehi and gang had under 100 people in it, and the migration across the Bering strait that filled north and south america moved a population.



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I read an article recently about how the introduction of the Book of Mormon (which is not part of the scripture, unlike the title page) will have one of the words changed for the next edition. Where it used to say that the lamanites are the primal ancestors of the native americans, it will say among the primal ancestors instead.

I don't have any problem with the idea that other people could have been in the americas. The book of mormon already mentions the Mulekites and Jeredites. It only states that it is by the will of God that anybody gets to the Americas.

Personally I don't think its a stretch that Laman and Lemuel, and their decendants mixed with other people. It could explain the change in skin color, and why there were so much more of them then the Nephites+Mulekites. I don't dwell on it though.

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