General Conference Oct 2007

beefche · Profuse Pontificator

General Conference Oct 2007

Poncho29 · Senior Bucketkeeper

I ALWAYS look forward to Elder Holland's talks. But, I think the one that touched me the most was Elder Wirthlin's talk. Despite the fact he wasn't feeling well, he gave a profound and passionate talk and he was determined to see it through. I was truly inspired.

PollyAnna · Senior Bucketkeeper

beefche wrote:
What will I do tomorrow? I'm having information overload. When will those talks be online...darn I wish we could get them faster.

That's why I am going back an re-listening to the parts that didn't quit stick...

BYU-TV online

-- Edited by PollyAnna at 19:01, 2007-10-06

PollyAnna · Senior Bucketkeeper

My notes are tremendous 17 pages from the morning session... 22 from the afternoon session... but these keep jumping out at me...

Elder Condie... Heavenly Father keeps His promises...

Powerful...

Elder Uchtdorf... Lifted to great heights from unbearable burden or weakness... (oh... and the Gospel will give me the ability to "endure JOYFULLY" to the end...)

So hopeful...

-- Edited by PollyAnna at 19:48, 2007-10-06

Euphrasie · Senior Bucketkeeper

Have we not reason to rejoice?

PollyAnna · Senior Bucketkeeper

Saturday afternoon:

Elder Withlin's talk about genuine love and Christlike Charity...

Elder Holland... well I can't even express what his talks have meant to me over the last 10 years... Honestly... both sessions were for me, just me............. But I am happy to share with the rest of you...

-- Edited by PollyAnna at 19:50, 2007-10-06

PollyAnna · Senior Bucketkeeper

ON the church website I just noticed that KSL has a live video feed (like BYU-TV) and you can watch the archives there too...

Also, everyone IS aware that Spanish and Portuguese is available for live streaming and archives at BYU-TV International too... right?

Poncho29 · Senior Bucketkeeper

Today should prove to be another day of inspiring, uplifting, spiritual, thought-provoking messages from General Conference.

Euphrasie · Senior Bucketkeeper

Wow...so far, SO GOOD!

Mahonri · Senior Bucketkeeper

Elder Bednar speaks with such clarity!

I love him.

PollyAnna · Senior Bucketkeeper

Sister Beck's comments reminds me of the things I have read that Sis Belle Spafford wrote/said.

Of the relationship between Relief Society and families Belle said: Women who become active in Relief Society grow to love it. Their knowledge and skills increase, their testimonies of the gospel become firmly rooted. There develops within them a desire to help in the building of the kingdom of God on earth. This influence they carry into their home and disseminate among the family members. The home then becomes enriched, a place where the Spirit of God may dwell, a home prepared to fulfill its divine destiny. Belle S. Spafford, A Womans Reach (1974), pg 247.

-- Edited by PollyAnna at 12:06, 2007-10-07

PollyAnna · Senior Bucketkeeper

So many good talks in the afternoon too... however this was one I loved... Elder Callister: there are proxies for ordinances, but none for the acquisition of a testimony...

Elder Oaks words answered MANY questions and prayers for me...

Poncho29 · Senior Bucketkeeper

I didn't get much out of the first session out of the first session today because our kids were being rotten. But, the second session was wonderful. I think it was the first time in a long time I was able to take notes on every single talk. I enjoyed all of the talks, but Elder Oaks talk really stuck with me. He came here several months ago to visit our stake and to call a new stake presidency.
He is completely different when speaking in a stake conference than he is when speaking in General Conference. He is much more laid back, but is still just as uplifting.
One of our kids looked at him today and said, "I think he has even less hair."

Mahonri · Senior Bucketkeeper

I was impressed most of all by Sister Beck.

WOW! Finally someone who will stand tall and speak straight talk. I am PRAYING that our new stake president picks her talk for Teachings of our Time.

Other blogs have been speaking ill of Sister Beck's talk. To those who do so I refer them to 1 Nephi 16:2-3. Some take the truth to be hard. Hopefully the MEN and women of the Church will read her talk and hearken.

Poncho29 · Senior Bucketkeeper

Why would other blogs speak ill of Sister Beck's talk? Her talk was very good. Other than the fact, truth hurts sometimes.

bokbadok · Senior Bucketkeeper

I enjoyed all of the talks, but Elder Oaks talk really stuck with me. He came here several months ago to visit our stake and to call a new stake presidency. He is completely different when speaking in a stake conference than he is when speaking in General Conference. He is much more laid back, but is still just as uplifting.
Ditto, Poncho. I've noticed this same thing with Elder Maxwell, Packer, Perry, and others who have come to do smaller local conferences. It's a good reminder that these are real human beings who are compassionate, caring people. I remember Elder Oaks spending a good 45 minutes before each session started, mingling with the members of our stake, shaking hands and visiting. I was fascinated to see his humor much more evident than we ever see in the formal setting of General Conference.

bokbadok · Senior Bucketkeeper

Poncho29 wrote:

Why would other blogs speak ill of Sister Beck's talk? Her talk was very good. Other than the fact, truth hurts sometimes.

I think Mahonri is referencing forums where the disenchanted hang out. Their favorite pasttime is to criticize the church and everything the leaders say. Of course they won't be happy with anything she said.

Poncho29 · Senior Bucketkeeper

Well, I figured that's what Mahonri was referring to. Like I said, truth hurts.

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

I thought Sister Beck's talk lacked some of the compassionate encouragement that many sisters are accustomed to receiving. It would be an easy talk to use if you had a tendency to feel bad about yourself as a homemaker. I found myself telling my wife, "She forgot to mention that the perfect woman also walks on water."

--Ray

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

I liked Pres. Oak's talk, though I guess that means I can no longer surf the web. :)

--Ray

Poncho29 · Senior Bucketkeeper

rayb wrote:

I thought Sister Beck's talk lacked some of the compassionate encouragement that many sisters are accustomed to receiving. It would be an easy talk to use if you had a tendency to feel bad about yourself as a homemaker. I found myself telling my wife, "She forgot to mention that the perfect woman also walks on water."

--Ray

That's true. I was feeling very "imperfect" during her talk. Maybe that's why her talk didn't stand out in my mind when conference was over.

fear of shiz · Profuse Pontificator

I found something Mahonri said about that talk elsewhere. Why didn't you say this here, Mahonri?

"BTW: My sweetheart and women all over the Church just like her would never imagine that taking drugs like prozac would solve anything. Women like Sister Beck and my wife have husbands that step up and do their part."

Euphrasie · Senior Bucketkeeper

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

{moderator hat on}

Shiz, it is not germaine to this topic to be quoting a portion of someone's comment out of context from another forum or website.

If you have an issue with what an individual said there, please confine your response to it at that location.

Cocobeem · Keeper of the Holy Grail

I thought the content of Sis. Beck's talk was good (I'll have to read it again - you remember I'm not much of an auditory learner...) but some of the delivery I thought was less than encouraging. "Women who KNOW, do this..." and "Women who KNOW, do that..." I dunno. Wasn't overly motivating for me. I don't remember which part it was, but sometime during her talk I found myself mumbling under my breath, "You must not live with a packrat." ashamed

I start my kids doing their own laundry in the 4th grade. My oldest son (13) was watching with me and part of Sis. Beck's talk prompted him to say, "See? YOU should be doing my laundry!"

hiccups · Future Queen in Zion

Ditto, Coco. I'm waiting for the transcripts on a few of the talks to get a better idea of what was said. I wasn't as excited about Sis. Beck's as some people seem to be. But I'm reserving judgement until I can reread it to see what I need to get from it.

hiccups · Future Queen in Zion

It might just be that I'm not a woman who KNOWS yet. confused

Euphrasie · Senior Bucketkeeper

I

your sig line hiccups.

Cocobeem · Keeper of the Holy Grail

I don't KNOW what her sig line means... Guess I'm not "in the know" either.

hiccups · Future Queen in Zion

http://www.lyricsdepot.com/they-might-be-giants/particle-man.html

For Coco.

glumirk · Senior Member

wow...I loved Sister Beck's talk because it gave me goals to set and work toward. Just because you know something doesn't mean you are perfect at it. No matter how many times I work math problems, I still miss a negative sign here and there and get the wrong answer. So, I try harder. I'm not a mother yet, but I felt that there was much to be learned from that talk.

My favorite was Elder Worthlin's. Besides the fact that I believe "all you need is love" (aka charity), and that was the topic of his talk, I loved how hard he was working to give that talk, and how much emotion he managed to put into it even though he was shaking so hard. And I especially loved the part where Elder Nelson got up to help him, and be there in case he fell. It was so sweet I started crying because I just know how much the Apostles and Prophet love us, and you could see the brotherhood that they have amongst themselves all through the Conference (like Elder Uchtdorf putting his hand on President Eyring's as he was being sustained). Such amazing men have been called to help guide the church, and I hope we all are able to learn as much from them as we can!

MegaMatt · Veteran Member

One thing Glumirk pointed out to me was that while conference are usually prepared weeks in advance (or even longer), Pres Eyering did not know he was going to be a member of the first presidency until Thursday. Members of the first presidency always speak in the priesthood session. So, was that talk by President Eyering in priesthood session put together in two days?!! Didn't feel like it! Same for Elder Cook. It is possible he had been asked to speak as a 70 to give a ten minute talk. So he at least had to extend his talk by ten minutes in two days, but there's a good chance it was all planned and revealed at short notice. Thank heaven for revelation!

PollyAnna · Senior Bucketkeeper

This is my take (which I posted else where too) on Sister Beck's talk... To quote myself...

I thought... "how could anyone feel guilty...???" I heard: "There are always ways of doing better, and here are some to consider, do better if you can... but look how GREAT you all are, and look how much power and influence you have..."

I certainly felt empowered, and I am a working mom who is physically very limited as to what she can do for herself and her family... but I came away thinking... "I am a force of good in the world no matter how little I can do because I choose to have a family that I strive to teach... love... and serve... Tomorrow I am going to do [that one thing I identified that I want to change] better... then we will see about the next day..."

It has occurred to me pretty often over the last 2-3 years... that we as a people are a lot harder on ourselves than ANY of the the leaders are trying to be, I believe that just as we read and hear offenses in the words of everyday members... we read and hear criticism from our leaders... I honestly have gotten to a point in my life that I feel comforted to know that even though I am not perfect... the only one that is really shocked by that seems to be me, and maybe a few other people that are even MORE clueless that I am... which is saying something...

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

I know that my wife struggles sometimes to feel like she's good enough. We try to have the attitude of King Benjamin, that it isn't needful to run faster than that you have strength. Everyone has their own way of delivering a message, and that's really the key. Sis. Beck's talk was delivered a lot like the talks we get from the brethren... Compare Pres. Eyring's talk on Missionary work, from last year, and you'll see he used a similar tactic, "A true missionary will... ", "A true missionary will not..." I think we in the church have certain expectations placed upon women speakers and men speakers...

--Ray

bokbadok · Senior Bucketkeeper

A good friend recently reminded me of an important lesson: it's not about me. When I'm worried that I'm not a good mother, or wife, I'm making it about me, when it should be about somebody else. When I stop judging myself and just do my best to solve problems, everything improves. When I hear a talk that encourages me to do better, I have two choices: I can implement the suggestions that will bring the promised blessings, or I can moan about how I'm never good enough, and how those darn leaders just expect too much of me and everyone else. One makes me happy, the other doesn't.

PollyAnna · Senior Bucketkeeper

bokbadok wrote:
those darn leaders just expect too much of me and everyone else. One makes me happy, the other doesn't.

As long as you don't expect too much from me, bok dear... I think I can make it! Because quite frankly... I don't think I have one more "chicken dance" in me...