And I apologize to all the Walmart haters out there, because this post isn't about their labor or marketing practices, their effects on local retailers, or the quality of their products. This is about a much more sinister aspect of Walmart, one that I had never considered before today.
This morning bokbadok and I had to run an errand up in Salt Lake. Since I would be going in to work in Provo afterwards while bok would be heading back to Spanish Fork, we decided to drive 2 cars to Provo/Orem and leave one there until we returned when we would head our seperate ways for the afternoon. So we parked our van in the parking lot of Walmart, way out in the nether reaches where it wouldn't bother anyone, certainly not any Walmart employee or customer, and we headed up to Salt Lake.
Our trip went well, and even included a stop at REI (which makes any trip a good one). Everything was good until we returned to Walmart. Our van was GONE. At first we thought we may have just forgotten where we left it, but after a little searching it was clear that the van was no longer in the parking lot. Our first thought was that it was stolen. That would have stunk for many reasons, not the least of which is that we just had the 90,000 mile maintainance done (timing belt, water pump, and all the fluids changed). The thought that we had just provided some thief with a well maintained van did not sit well. Then we thought that it was also possible that it had been towed. Since there were signs everywhere indicating that the parking lot is under camera surveillance, we figured the Walmart people could tell us what had happened to the van (whether they had it towed or it was stolen).
So we went in and talked to customer service. The guy there said if we didn't shop at the store then it was probably towed because there is someone watching the parking lot for people who leave there car there without heading into the store. (Up until then I had mistakeningly thought that the video surveilance was to watch out for car thieves and vandals.) The guy gave us the number of the towing company and said to call them and ask them, and if they didn't take our car then we would have to call the police.
Well, at least it wasn't stolen. The towing company had our van and told us to go to the lot where it was and they would send someone out there to get it out for us. The signs about the video serveillance are all over the parking lot, but we sure didn't see any signs indicating Walmart would have non-customers towed. Alas, on our way out of the lot we did see one smallish sign saying just that. The guy at the towing place was in no hurry (on the clock, no doubt). One hour and $121 later we had our van back.
The worst part of the whole experience is that I can't think of any way to rationalize ourselves as not being in the wrong.
Since Sam Walton died, the place has gone to heck in a hand basket. I hate shopping at Walmart. Often I can find the same items at other stores for less. The layout of the new Super Walmart is a nightmare. The sporting goods area is now a complete joke. The place is a circus in the evenings and on weekends. Horrible, horrible place. I remember that Walmart used to encourage people to park there, especially people traveling in RVs. Sorry to hear about your van. I would write a letter to Walmart telling them you are taking your business elsewhere and then follow through.
I was a Big Walmart fan at one time but no more. Same goes for Home Depot.
The same thing happened to a member of our stake that HAD shopped there together first and then left in one of the two cars they had arrived in... later about 4 hours later after having been to the mall, Costco and to have lunch together, they returned to find their 10 yr old but still very nice Lexus was towed and damaged... (The reason they took too cars is that from that trip the hubby was leaving on a business trip and was on his way to the airport...)
Jason, it seems that WalMart does not care... Their policy in this are has changed... Our friends sent a letter to the corporate office explaining what their experience was and that they will no longer shop there because of it... For that matter others of us sent letters too... WalMart lost the business of a few people over this towing incident, like us! WalMart's response was... "Oh well..."
I hate standing in line for 15 minutes behind the idiot who doesn't have clue one about how to use the self-checkout scanner (and I always seem to choose that line.)
I hate standing in the one open regular line for 15 minutes behind the rest of the idiots who are too frightened of technology to even attempt the self-checkout scanner.
I've given my business to other-than-Walmart for over a year now, and my life is better in so many ways!
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Dilbert- you should have left your car at our church parking lot. The car I alluded to in another post here is still sitting there, even after 5 or 6 weeks or so!
That is too bad, all I can say is sorry.
I don't like the long lines that exist at Wal-Mart, even at midnight. A few weeks ago I went to our all night Wal-Mart and complained about the plethora of pallets they leave all over. While I can physically maneuver around them, so many pallets makes it hard to find items if the pallet is blocking merchandise. To me, they should put one or two pallets out at a time- it is ridiculous to have every inch of asile blocked w/a pallet. Also I feel it is wrong to block the aisles to this extent in case someone using a wheelchair or has difficulty mving needs to go down a certain aisle.
Anyway, so the answer when I shared my concern was basically "well we need to put the items away". I know this, but it really doesn't take that much time to do it my way. Plus when I worked at Wal-Mart for a few months a few years ago, many times we would bring pallets out only return them to the back, still filled w/stuff.
Nonetheless, my left thumb now bears my Wal-Mart scapel cut- when I received 6 or 7 stictches using a box cutter!!!
I can't believe they towed ya... that whole towing business thing is such a huge scam... I once had a neighbor call a towtruck on me because I didn't have my pass displayed in my window. The same neighbor who I suspect called, then ran and told me they were towing it... I told the tow truck guy it was my car, and that I had a pass... I showed it to him.
Because he had my car hoisted halfway up with a chain, he still charged me fifty bucks to undo it, even though I was in right all along...
Grrr... (resisting urge to post innappropriate emoticons...)
--Ray
-- Edited by rayb at 23:56, 2007-06-08
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Our Wal-Mart (and yes, it's mine) is going through a major remodel as we speak. They are changing everything around and nobody knows where anything is anymore. So besides the 15 min. lines with idiots, you know have totally pissed off idiots. But the deal breaker for me was that they are no longer going to carry size 4 and 5 Luvs diapers. Only the smaller sizes and carry their own crap brand (hey that's funny) of generic, leak all over and can't tell when they're wet or not 'till it's too late, fat chunky make their pants look weird diapers. That's it. I went to Macey's tonight.
I wonder how "nether" the nethermost cameras at Wal-Mart go.... (thinking back on nursing in the far reaches of the parking lot on occasion)
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I have never had a pleasant experience the few times I have graced Walmart or Sams Club with my presence since my first experience with the one just off I-15 in Orem.
Hence, we do not patronize them in any fashion.
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Was it the one on the BYU exit? Those jerks. Yeah, the more I think about it, they are starting to tick me off. BUT... there are a lot of small-town areas that well, that's all they have within an hour or two... so what are you supposed to do?
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Try going to walmart and asking if they sell plastic headcoverings, like shower caps... I did this the other day at the local one... 3 out of 4 doubted they even sold it... another directed me to one section but never did find them. Eventually I found them...
Walmart does the community a great service by giving employment opportunities to many who would probably not be employable...
I also get very annoyed with the people who check you on the way out, to make sure you're not shoplifting... GRRAAAAAH! I swear they should give upstanding law-abiding citizens a seperate exit so that we can just leave the store without the strip-search... I often get very vocal about how idiotic it is to have someone just stand there and mark your receipt...
--Ray
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I sent my wife to get computer cable at Walmart. They told her they didn't have any. I directed her on the cell phone to the exact aisle where I had seen it previously. Basically we both learned that if you don't know where it is, they won't be able to find it for you. I hate going there. Usually it's a last resort thing if we do. There isn't a whole lot of other options. I do buy ammo there occassionally but only because the local gun shop is generally closed in the evenings when I can get into town. It takes nearly as long to find a parking spot and walk into that monstrosity as it takes to get what you want and pay for it.
Yeah, it was the one at the BYU exit (some would call it the UVSC exit, but I'm fine with calling it the BYU exit ). I think the fact that it is accross the street from UVSC may have something to do with why they are so militant about their parking lot. Of course if they do that elsewhere then maybe not.
Walmart does the community a great service by giving employment opportunities to many who would probably not be employable...
Cocobeem wrote:But the deal breaker for me was that they are no longer going to carry size 4 and 5 Luvs diapers. Only the smaller sizes and carry their own crap brand (hey that's funny) of generic, leak all over and can't tell when they're wet or not 'till it's too late, fat chunky make their pants look weird diapers.
Well, that's just silly. Although, if you go one step up from Dri-pers, White Cloud's not bad. They don't leak for me, anyway. And they're cheaper. (I find that Luvs are always a bit smaller for the size than other diapers, and I hate having to get the next size up with fewer diapers per box.)
I wonder how "nether" the nethermost cameras at Wal-Mart go.... (thinking back on nursing in the far reaches of the parking lot on occasion)
White Cloud's what I'm talking about! Two consecutive nights, 2yo boy pee'd through the whole freakin' diaper. But wait, there's more... when I took it off him and lifted it up, freakin' out PEE RAN DOWN MY FOREARM!! Can you beat that?!? That has never happened to me in my whole life! It like doesn't absorb it all or something. I've never had leaks with Luvs. In fact my first baby was so fat (28 pounds at 9 months for perspective) Luvs was the ONLY brand that fit him around the circumference so he didn't leak through. Not even Huggies or Pampers did that. You find Luvs run small? Maybe you have taller kids. My kiddos have never been that tall. hmm...
Our Wal-Mart doesn't mark our receipts... I've only seen that at Sam's Club. They just say, "Have a great day," or "Thanks for shopping at Wal-Mart."
Yeah, there's probably people trying to park at the BYU/UVSC Wal-Mart because of the events down at the McKay Center and stuff... You probably timed it for some concert or something... what were you thinking??
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He's not actually the baby. The baby is 10 months and he's a good boy cuz he's only pee'd on me maybe 2 times. He's nailed Daddy about a dozen times, though. Which is interesting, since I change him like 10 times more often...
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And why does it always seem to happen on Sunday mornings, when one is trying to help everyone get out the door four minutes before church starts, and the target is a nice silk tie instead of one of the father's-day-gift polyester ones?
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My kids are on the tall side, but it's usually girth-wise that Luvs run small for us. Weird.
Diaper debates are so funny because everyone has their favorite, and has anecdotal evidence to back it up. So far, I've never had a White Cloud diaper leak, and very rarely even blow out (which is not the fault of the diaper when it goes straight up the back and all...).
Maybe I'm just lucky. Or maybe...there are separate child diaper individual array patterns ending randomly (D.I.A.P.E.R.) in which different brands excel in covering different random end patterns, so each child has an ideal diaper that matches his or her individual array...
Or something.
(Have I mentioned that I love this latest baby? She only has, like, one messy diaper a week. Unlike her older siblings who each had multiple per day...)
We use Huggies because, well, they're not too expensive, and they do the job for us. We tend not to experiment much if something works for us.
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Oops- I meant "Parent's Choice". Yeah, with a cheesy name like that you're pretty much assured of the suck factor.
If babies blow out the back, of course it's the diaper's fault!! Who else? Mine?
Yeah, that is weird about Luvs running small on the girth. We had the total opposite experience. EVERY time he was on his side, he leaked. Unless he was wearing... drum roll... Luvs. It was as predictable as the moon. (Diaper Indicates A Predictable Estimable Result- D.I.A.P.E.R.) As indicated earlier, he was around 10% for height and off the chart for weight. He turned 13 over the weekend and he's all evened out, if you're concerned.
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Sorry about your Wal-mart parking troubles, Dilbert (& bokbadok). That is new one on me. I see RVs and such parked at the two Wal-marts here located on the highways overnight. I also haven't noticed any signs about parking but I haven't really looked. So, I don't know if they all have a common policy on parking or if they tailor it to the locations.
I can't really say I have had any major problems with Wal-mart in the many years of shopping there. Employees are only as good as what you pay them. Hiring for retail is a pain with a few good employees out of many. I just don't count on any help at Wal-mart nor did I at K-mart before they shut down locally nor do I at Target.
There's not much competition for Wal-mart here. We have four Wal-marts. K-mart shut down and we have one Target clear on the other side of town. I like competition so that scenario is not preferred. We still don't shop Wal-mart exclusively except for the everyday items like toiletries, some groceries and such. The problem is Wal-mart is too darn convenient (a few blocks away) and has the best average prices (cheaper on some items, more expensive on others).
We also used White Cloud diapers with no problems. Or huggies when we had good coupons. We even used the cheaper Wal-mart brand with no problems.
I don't think so. I buy them at Wal-Mart. There's no K-mart around here at all.
One thing I must say is the people who work at our Wal-Mart are very, very helpful. Even the ones that are not the sharpest knives in the drawer- they will totally go out of their way to help you. As in walk you to the place you want to be, clear on the other side of the store or whatever. More than once I've tried to say, "You really don't have to do this. Just point me in the general direction..." If someone happens to be having a bad day, usually just a comment like, "Wow, this remodeling has everyone kinda' worked up, doesn't it?" and they turn right around - just with one nice comment.
-- Edited by Cocobeem at 09:40, 2007-06-12
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Oops, I was thinking President's Choice. Parent's Choice are a step below White Cloud in quality. Parent's Choice used to be called something else but I can't think of what right now. We used the former version of Parent's Choice. Then White Cloud came out so we used that on occasion. We signed up on Huggies website so we got coupons on a regular basis and used the coupons in combination with sales that were frequent at Eckerd (now CVS) and Walgreens.
Oops, I was thinking President's Choice. Parent's Choice are a step below White Cloud in quality. Parent's Choice used to be called something else but I can't think of what right now. We used the former version of Parent's Choice. Then White Cloud came out so we used that on occasion. We signed up on Huggies website so we got coupons on a regular basis and used the coupons in combination with sales that were frequent at Eckerd (now CVS) and Walgreens.
Dri-pers. They used to be called Dri-pers. We made it most of the way through my first daughter's diaperhood with those, but they do leak.