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Wise and Revered Master

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Looks like Fred Thompson is Going to Run!!!!!!


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,276387,00.html

Looks like he will officially announce after the 4th of July.  Finally, a candidate that I don't have so many reservations with!!!

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This should make things even more crazy for the nomination.

Hopefully Romney, Hunter, and now Fred Thompson won't split the nomination vote too much, thus giving us Guiliani or McCain.

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That's probably exactly what's going to happen.

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Even a few months back Fred Thompson was polling towards the top of the pack. I don't think the ticket will be split. Fred Thompson offers a viable candidacy of a real conservative. Already, folks who worked for Reagan and Bush Sr. are lining up to work the Thompson ticket. Guilianni is the 800lbs gorilla in this race but I think he faces a few major hurdles specifically that his liberal politics will not play in the south in a primary. McCain has very few supporters in the conservative base of the republican party. Mitt does have and will continue to have questions about his faith cloud the condidacy plus his opponents will continue to point to his "change of mind" on abortion and his stumble on hunting and gun rights. It may not be fair but that is going to happen and the media will keep going along with it. Hunter's biggest problem is the fact that no one has a clue who the guy is. Ron Paul runs the same problem as well as some of his ideas appeal to some but turn off a lot. Newt Gengrich has a whole mess of baggage some legit and some hyped by a media that hates his guts.

Fred Thompson is going to remind a lot of people of Reagan in the party. He is an actor just like Reagan who also became a politician. He will be instantly recognized by the nation. I don't discount this because I saw it here in California with the governator. His list of acting credits is extensive: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000669/ His politics are also very similar to Reagan. He served in the Senate from a southern state, Tennesee. The south is a key area for securing a primary or a general election. He was very popular and didn't generate too much controversy while in office. He left office before much of the bruhaha of the war on terror so he has none of that baggage to fight in the media and during debates with the other candidates. He is extremely charismatic and his southern accent can be dissarming to reporters and critics. Even those who don't agree with him politically generally like the guy.

I also believe that if his polling looks as strong or stronger as it did when he wasn't a candidate then he will get many of those who were supporting Gulianni and McCain who were holding their noses to jump ship. Another big factor is that by coming into the race so late, the media hasn't been talking about him. He is new and fresh. He will get a lot of press in the months before the primary without the media fatigue of the other candidates. Like Arnold, you will see him in movies and television over and over because of his acting which gives him more face time. Generally, his roles are good guy roles so he gets a lot of "free" feel good points among T.V. watchers.

His biggest asset is that there isn't a lot about the man that's not likable or presidential. His biggest weekness may be questions about his cancer and health. If he looks healthy and is up front on everything then he may overcome it.

I am personally excited about the primary where before I wasn't really into it. I think we may actually have an interesting race on our hands. Before I was ready to pretty much concede the primary to Gulianni but now I'm not so sure.

-- Edited by salesortonscom at 14:55, 2007-05-30

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Another big factor is that by coming into the race so lateI wish that 17 months before the elections wasn't considered "late".  There is still plenty of time for political opponents to work him over leaving his "fresh" appearance as muddied and soiled as the rest of the candidates. 

-- Edited by Organist at 15:24, 2007-05-30

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More like seven to eight months. Primary voting starts in January of 2008 in some states. For the general election you are correct that we are quite a bit further. Still not a lot of time to get your message out if you are relatively unknown.

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(Ray dons his conspiracy cap...) Fred Thompson is buddy buddy with McCain... this is a plot to get him elected.

VOTE FOR MITT!

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-- Edited by fear of shiz at 18:36, 2007-05-30

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Arbi, is Fred Thompson a Satanist too!? He's a hollywood actor... that's pretty close... isn't it?

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The Case for Fred Thompson is made here:

http://www.kungfuquip.com/archives/677

Note that this is based on his style/gravitas and his political positions/speeches/voting record, etc. 

There is a case for Fred Thompson in 2008, and it is not just because the grass is always greener on Fred Thompson's lawn. Always.

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It's funny. I have never heard of Fred Thompson before Bountiful. I followed Jason's link to imdb to check out his filmography, thinking that I must really be out of it. Come to find out he's primarily a small screen actor in recent years. I've only seen two movies that were on that list, and I don't remember his character in either one. shrug.gif

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Hey. I went to your link expecting a humor piece (It's called Kung Fu Quip, for heaven's sake), but it's a serious discussion. I'll have more to think about the primaries...

I did hear one strong point though. When Fred Thompson goes swimming, he doesn't get wet. Water gets Fred Thompson.

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I bet he could beat Triangle Man, too.... rofl.gif

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If Thompson gets in the race will end up being between him and Mitt. Either one, if they hold true, can defeat any of the Demo candidates.

Picture this, Romney and Thompson meeting with either the Chinese or N. Korean leaders. Talk about intimidation. Those guys are giants compared to the Asians.

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I think the voters may have "Southerner" fatigue. Sixteen years of Arkansas Clinton and Texas Bush may play against him. Just a guess.  His closeness to McCain may be a liability unless he articulates his differences, especially on illegal immigration. 

I personally find Fred Thompson to be a breath of fresh air.  I just hope he can campaign as ferociously as his Democratic rivals. He does have a stage presence with his height which would help him crush Hillary or Obama Hussein in a debate. We'll see................



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As I have said before, I would like any combination of Romney, (Fred) Thompson, or Hunter for president and vice-president. If not that, I would be ok with any Republican instead of a Democrat (Although I wouldn't care much for some Republicans).

Lets see how things go.



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Fred Thompson has a lot of charisma, which, for better or worse, is a very helpful tool for becoming president in our age of radio, television, and internet. That's why Michael Savage wouldn't stand a chance. Apart from the question of whether his politics would get people interested, not too many people would vote for a brusque, rude guy with a bronx accent.

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hey... I like the car talk guys...  wink

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Yay for Tom and Ray!

I've been listening since the late 80s.  I wonder if their listener base expanded after "Cars"?

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I cracked up when I realized it was them doing those voices. What an excellent choice....

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I'm with Roper, Yay for Ray!

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PS> Vote for Mitt!!

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I just got my Fred 08 sticker in the mail. Now things are gonna get interesting.

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Thompson is sadly going to end up being the Ross Perot of this election within the Republican Party. He may have the charisma to carry a lot of votes, but in the end, he is only going to further turn any momentum the party creates into a race for the plurality for the nomination. I don't think he honestly has what it takes to be a viable president. But do any of the candidates from either of the two major parties? Third parties are not even part of the equation, because none of them have viable candidates or platforms. Period.

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Yea for Anarchy!!!

I think Fred has a chance if he campaigns like he did for the Senate in the primary. The vote is going to be split in the general no matter who runs. The sides are too polarized. I actually hope Hillary gets the nomination on the left because the cooky anti war left hates her and will vote for Cindy Sheehan or some other out there candidate who doesn't have a prayer.

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Third Parties are looking more and more attractive. :)

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Cat Herder wrote:

Thompson is sadly going to end up being the Ross Perot of this election within the Republican Party. He may have the charisma to carry a lot of votes, but in the end, he is only going to further turn any momentum the party creates into a race for the plurality for the nomination. I don't think he honestly has what it takes to be a viable president. But do any of the candidates from either of the two major parties? Third parties are not even part of the equation, because none of them have viable candidates or platforms. Period.




 I wonder what your definition of "viable" is. I'm hoping it's not some sort of circular logic like "They're viable because they're electable. And why are they electable? Because they're viable."

 



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I have to admit candidly the reason that I don't favor third parties more than anything is that they seem to be more attached to their ideaology than to their humanity. It is just my opinion, of course, but honestly, I have met so many who are so convinced they are right, and when pressed for solutions, tend to see the country as hopeless, in need of huge reforms, that would be very disruptive to most people's lives. And the reasoning they give is usually "because I'm right", or "because it's truth."

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PS> Coincidentally I DON'T have problems with folks who are religious for the above reasons... but religion is a personal choice, and is not something forced upon the public as a whole... and therein is the difference...

-- Edited by rayb at 12:48, 2007-09-04

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My definition of viable president is one that isn't likely to die in office... ta-da-dum! wink.gif

Ron Paul and Fred Thompson are like old geezers, kind of like McCain! If they got elected, they may get pneumonia at the inauguration swearing in ceremony, and we definitely don't need another William Henry Harrison, unless say his vice pres was Mitt... wink.gif

Circular logic is too, ahem, curved. I prefer the randomness of quantum physics logic... biggrin.gif

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Soon, there will be Fred Thompson.

Whole countries in the Middle East are going into hiding at the prospect....

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shiz: fix your .sig... it should be a "coconut" laden swallow...

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Fred Thompson will use swallows to drop nukes on Iran if he has too! Go Fred!

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