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Shrek the Third and Pirates of the Caribbean


Today in preparation for my son's birthday tomorrow we saw Shrek III. Then, because our son is a huge fan of the Pirates of the Carribbean movies, we had a moment of weakness and bought tickets for that.
Shrek III was great. It made us happy. It not only had some of the old jokes, it had plenty of new ones. The computer graphics are stunning. It looks like a real fantasy world. Mostly it teaches good lessons, and it ends on a very sweet note. An A- in my book.
My son is a huge Pirates of the Caribbean fan, as I said. He's disappointed with the third film, and doesn't want it on DVD. It was a dark film. It began with mass executions, including executions of children. And it ends on a dark note too. There's a dark note in middle too. The ending wasn't what I think any of us wanted. The pirate Jack Sparrow in past movies has been sort of like a fallen hero type character. In this film there's really not anything heroic about him. I'd have to give the film a D-.

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That's funny, because just today I heard someone give the exact opposite reviews of those two movies - disappointed in Shrek, liked Pirates. shrug.gif

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Well, I guess to each their own. I'd post specifics about what we liked or didn't like about each, but I don't want to spoil either movie for anyone.

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Well, we definitely won't be seeing the third Pirates movie ever again. We regret having seen it in the first place.
Our 11 year old and 18 month old were laughing throughout Shrek.
It's a shame that you fell asleep during the last half hour, because at the very end there was a scene that all parents can deeply appreciate.

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I'm not really interested in any movies in the theatre right now. Haven't been for some time either. I mean, I hate going to see a movie just because I feel like "I'm gonna be left out for not having seen it". Oh yeah, that is really compelling motivation. Nearly every time my wife and I have gone to see a movie for that reason it has ended up being "we spent money for that?!"

Watched the season finale to the BBC series Robin Hood tonight... was really disappointed. I think this is the first time I have ever verbally used the term "jumped the shark" in reference to a show that up to now has been a decent bit of light drama / swashbuckling fun. It was almost as if this season ending episode was not quite sure if there would be a season two but then maybe there would be but then again maybe there wouldn't so let's leave make some storyline resolution but leave otherthings unresolved but lets have some really, really unbelieveable things going on within the storyline where all sense of real-time continuity due to geographic distance involved or time frame covered in the episode or reality of taking on a castle full of guards by a little (as in 6) band of outlaws who seem to be able to go through doors without guards or the regular antagonists recognizing them from previous encounters and then have them all leave after the caper walking (not running) since they aren't under fire and all do a Toyota Sellabration jump and cheer at the very end before the camera freezes... rolleyes

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I saw Pirates of the Caribbean III last night. I wouldn't recommend it. So much potential, so much confusion, so many different characters that I couldn't understand, so much violence, so much darkness, pagan goddesses, no central theme or point.

There were interesting parts, great action scenes and special effects.

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We saw Pirates of the Caribbean:  World's End yesterday.  We enjoyed it.  I didn't like it as much the first two (the first being the best).  It was another supernatural pirate movie like the other two with lots of action and eye candy.  No more dark or violent then the others, IMO, though I could have done without the opening.  Jack Sparrow was more the hero this time as his priorities steer a little more from himself.  I recommend the movie to those who enjoyed the first two.

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I'd love to hear what folks found objectionable about the whole affair.

--Ray

PS> Mahonri, I guess we found something to help you with your insomnia... the last hour of Shrek III... :) Glad you got some rest...

-- Edited by rayb at 13:16, 2007-05-28

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I don't have a lot of time at the moment, since soon I need to go out and work in the garden.
Anyway, If you don't want the movie spoiled for you, don't read further. These won't be in the order they happened in the film, just in the order I think of them. There were many dark parts. Governor Swan is killed, and Elizabeth Swan become bitter and evil because of it. There were the mass executions. They visit pirates in Singapore, and in addition to asking that Elizabeth Swan and Captain Barbosa give up all their weapons, Elizabeth is asked to strip before the leering pirates so that they can verify that she truly doesn't have any more weapons. They don't show anything, but it's still a bad moment. At the end, even though they get married, Elizabeth and Will Turner don't end up together, Jack is left without his ship, and pretty much nothing good happens. The end is the most unsatisfying part of the film, because you keep hoping that, despite all that the characters have had to suffer, they'll have some sort of reward in the end. They don't. There are other moments, like a father cutting his son's heart out, Jack turning wholly insane (at least, that's the only explanation I can come up with for him seeing many copies of himself, killing copies of himself, etc.), that simply are painful to watch. There's a near pornographic moment at the very end, where Elizabeth's leg is shown in extreme closeup, and Will is kissing and generally getting very amorous with her leg. I know that they're married at that point, but it's still not something I wanted to see. Nor was an earlier moment where pirates were peeking up her dress (actually a shirt, which is all she's wearing). The character of Will Turner has fallen the farthest. He was my favorite character from the first. An honorable blacksmith who truly loves Elizabeth Swan, gets conflicted when he finds out about his father's pirate past and has to do some illegal things himself. I didn't like him at all in this film. He's into betrayal and all sorts of nasty stuff.
This is by no means a comprehensive list, but it's all I have time for.


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I haven't seen Shrek, but I liked Pirates well enough. Kind of the same opinion as Titus.  The only thing I couldn't figure out was...

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Dang Euphie, that Spoiler button thing is COOOOOOL!!

You ROCK!

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I know. I'm pretty awesome that way.

On the other hand...what have I started? disbelief.gif

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Euphie is smart that way.

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How do you do that?!?! furious

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The same way you do links coco. Look for the "spoil" button on your advanced post screen.

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