Cut Down All The Trees in Colder Climates...

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

Cut Down All The Trees in Colder Climates...

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

I'm starting my chainsaw for the good of the planet.

arbilad · Head Chef

Environmentalists are so inconsistent. For example, there's a huge windfarm (electricity generating wind turbines) in California. The environmentalists keep having a fit about it because it kills birds. And yet we're constantly told that we need to produce more electricity with renewable sources, such as wind power. In fact, in Colorado there's a law saying that by 2010 ten percent of our power needs to come from renewable sources.

Randy · Senior Member

Those wind farms are far more horrifying than even that. Not only do they kill birds, which is bad enough, but it has now been discovered that they also kill bats.

-- Edited by Randy at 14:32, 2007-05-24

Cocobeem · Keeper of the Holy Grail

But ... bats are bad. They suck your blood and stuff.

Randy · Senior Member

Well I'm just quoting the environmentalists, but honestly, bats are beneficial in that they eat mosquitos and other pests. So if the windmills were killing all the bats, I'd probably be concerned.

Buildings kill more birds than windmills do. Cats kill more birds than windmills do.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

What about Batman?

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

According to the historical recordings, Batman has killed his share of birds too... Most notably of the non-flying swimming type that like cold climates and eat fish...

If the windmills kill bats, do they also kill mosquitos?

arbilad · Head Chef

C'mon, Cat, anyone who's watched Lilo & Stitch knows that mosquitoes are an endangered species!

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

Evil Vikings! I knew there was a reason I prefered other pro-football teams!

arbilad · Head Chef

Mahonri wrote:

...was watching National Geographic yesterday and they were talking about how much warmer the Earth was when the Vikings settled Greenland in 980AD.... and we are worried about global warming?

Give me a break.

Perhaps the vikings cut down all the trees in Greenland and started us moving back towards an ice age.

Apparently the environmentalists will never get it right.

It's worse. They claim there wasn't a warm period, and that there wasn't a little ice age. I read about it in a "debunking" of anti-global warming arguments. They say that for thousands of years the Earth's average temperature hasn't varied by as much as 1 degree celsius. Of course, that doesn't explain receding ice in the swiss alps uncovering a silver mine, with tools stacked neatly as if the miners were planning to return next year.

dilbert · Senior Member

If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down?

We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.

--Jack Handy

bokbadok · Senior Bucketkeeper

PollyAnna · Senior Bucketkeeper

My brother's family had been living in an area outside of Portland OR for quit a while when St. Helen's went off. It's his opinion that the weather is much different since that event. I know that the southwest is very different than it was 30 years ago... Listening to the folks that grew up here and are now in their 50-60s is interesting...

I am sure there are many factors in the changes that happen to our world... however the scriptures tell me that God is still in control.

-- Edited by PollyAnna at 18:09, 2007-05-26

arbilad · Head Chef

People who live in Colorado say that the weather here is much more mild than it used to be. I believe them.
I have no problem believing that the weather is changing. We are told that in the last days the elements will be in confusion. I believe that we are in the last days. Therefore I am not surprised at weird weather.
But what I do not believe in the slightest is that humans are having a huge effect on the weather.
The people who preach the gospel of global warming would have you believe that the earth is delicate and can't adapt. For instance, the rebuttal of the argument that we put out too little CO2 to effect the environment goes something like this (with made up numbers, because I don't remember the real ones). Say that normally the earth produces 200 gigatons of CO2, and absorbs the same 200 gigatons. Even if humans only produce 1 gigaton, that's one gigaton more than is natural, and it doesn't get absorbed. Therefore it builds up over time, and affects the environment.
That's nonsense, though. If more CO2 is put out, more is absorbed. Greenhouse owners know, for instance, that if you add more CO2, the plants love it and grow larger and greener. Any additional CO2 put into the atmosphere is easily absorbed.
The preachers of global warming are intellectually dishonest.