no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing... the truth of God will go forth till it has penetrated every website, sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished and the great Jehovah shall say the work is done
Very interesting and of great value to your family but completely inapropriate for a sacrament meeting talk in my opinion. There are many things and details that have not been revealed by the prophets for the saints and would be classified as personal revelation. I must admit that I enjoyed reading it very much and was very impressed with the beauty of the description of the vision.
I wonder if he wasn't trying to justify his living the law of plural marriage and also slavery question. The rest I can see as possibly inspired.
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no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing... the truth of God will go forth till it has penetrated every website, sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished and the great Jehovah shall say the work is done
Also, I don't think I was bright enough to find the same woman that was following me around in the pre-existence. I think I could have married any number of different women and made things work. Of course only one woman would probably put up with me!
I don't think anyone would want to hear the sermons I would give if I interpreted all the dreams I have that have shades of gospel related topics or settings in a church building in them...
Somehow, it would be hard to find a correlation between Darth Vader and his stormtroopers taking control of the chapel, or holding a YSA dance in the chapel, or the monsters in the dark of the broom closet and furnace rooms at the church that will jump out and go "Boo!" to little kids in venture to close with the Plan of Salvation...
Not sure what to make of the saying of this ancestor of your wife's... in all honesty...
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It seems to me the only thing you've learned is that Caesar is a "salad dressing dude."
I have read this account before. I doesn't seem wrong, I think this may have bee a personal revelation that was not necessarily meant to be shared with the world. Nothing really rings "incorrect" to me. In fact, some seems rather comforting.
What I really like is this quote from the end "He again said to me, 'I will see you safely thru until you return again.' " This is meaningful to me in that He has done this for me. I have deliberately gone astray and He pulled me back. He keeps setting me on the right path. I can affirmatively say that He is seeing me safely through so that I return despite my own best efforts to ruin myself.
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Lo, there I see my mother, my sisters, my brothers Lo, there I see the line of my people back to the beginning Lo, they call to me, they bid me take my place among them In the halls of Valhalla, where the brave may live...forever
this may have bee a personal revelation that was not necessarily meant to be shared with the worldThat was my thought for anything that may be valid in the two narratives.
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It seems to me the only thing you've learned is that Caesar is a "salad dressing dude."
"The right elbow of the female seemed to touch the left elbow of the male. I should judge the males, generally to be about six feet two inches in height, and the females some three or four inches less. Their forms seemed as perfect as a new born infant, with no interference. They marched forth clothed in robes of a light color, tied in front. "
That part bugged me, it makes it seem like to be "perfect" one needs to be 6'2" if male and about 5'8'' if female. So where does this put those of us who are around 5'2 & 1/2"??
Don't worry, nita. There's a number of things that bugged me about this but I don't want to spend an hour or two going through the points and then bringing up the flaws...
Euphrasie! You're a detail person! Wanna' do it?
Anyway, this would be the last time I'd share this little tidbit if it were me.
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Life is tough but it's tougher if you're stupid. -John Wayne
I think the thing about heights and such, maybe it is that way, I sure would not mind being taller. It might have just been his perception also and not necessarily the way it is.
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Lo, there I see my mother, my sisters, my brothers Lo, there I see the line of my people back to the beginning Lo, they call to me, they bid me take my place among them In the halls of Valhalla, where the brave may live...forever
You know, if the males and females in the dream were different heights, and yet their elbows were touching, it would have to mean the females were walking around with their elbows / arms raised so elbow could touch elbow, or the males were having to walk hunched over on one side so their elbows were low enough to meet the females elbows... Not a terribly comfortable image.
What exactly are the robes of a newborn infant? We were dressed in receiving blankets, or onesies, or footed pajamas? Oh wait, read that wrong, we apparently had the countenances of infants and we wore robes...
Did I miss something? I saw not the sweet Euphrasie appear in this thread, or was that an invitation?
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It seems to me the only thing you've learned is that Caesar is a "salad dressing dude."
No, I reject that version of eternity and substitute my own in which I'm taller than you, but at least three foot. In fact, you're ressurrected as a hobbit, and I get to be Gandalf.
--Ray
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I'm not slow; I'm special. (Don't take it personally, everyone finds me offensive. Yet somehow I manage to live with myself.)
Hey, if you want to be resurrected as some old gnarly dude with wild hair, fine by me... at least as a hobbit, I'd be able to stamp out fires with my bare feet! Plus, I'd have an impeccable palate and be able to continue my love of food.
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It seems to me the only thing you've learned is that Caesar is a "salad dressing dude."
I had a dream that the Pre-Mortal existence was actually the Shire. Oh, it was lovely. And the music! Breathtaking. Children playing around... ponies dancing in the wind-swept grasses...
oop- time for second breakfast-
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Life is tough but it's tougher if you're stupid. -John Wayne
Hey, if you want to be resurrected as some old gnarly dude with wild hair, fine by me... at least as a hobbit, I'd be able to stamp out fires with my bare feet! Plus, I'd have an impeccable palate and be able to continue my love of food.
Not to mention the fact that Gandolf did come out of the closet. Are you trying to tell us something Ray?
{contemplating an eternity as some sort of siamese twin with Ray, attached at the elbow}
