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VA Does Rite Thing by Wiccans

So, they are okay at letting a symbol be placed on gravemarkers that many evangelicals consider represents devil worship, but families of LDS veterans who want a religious symbol on their loved one's veteran grave marker have to choose a cross or nothing at all?

Oh, wait... my bad... there is a symbol available for LDS veterans now...
http://www.cem.va.gov/cem/hm/hmemb.asp

When my father died about 11 years ago, we were told by the funeral home when they put the order in for the marker he was eligible for could only have a cross, buddhist circle, a Star of David, or nothing on it.  So, either a lot of new emblems of belief have been allowed since then, or the funeral home we had contracted gave us bad information.  evileye

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I like the athiest symbol. The atomic emblem rocks!! I was unaware that you could get an Angel Moroni symbol. Thanks for sharing that info cat.

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I like the Moravian one... Flagwaving sheep make me happy.

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How could we make our symbol the Living Christ?

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I like the symbol for the Community of Christ, believe it or not. The Lamb and the Lion at peace has always been a favorite of mine. The Angel Moroni is a good symbol as well, but Mahonri has it right: There really is no way to use one symbol to represent our faith. I mean, the gravestone is made of Rock (O Thou Rock of Our Salvation), not many people would understand the Living Waters, or the Bread of Life. He is the Lamb, the Son, the Word, the great I Am. How can one symbol represent everything He is? God is Love, God is Light...the list could go on forever.

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On my parents tombstone, we had the Salt Lake Temple engraved into it. I guess for out west, having a temple on the tombstone is not that unusual. Back here in the east, it is.

Later, with permission of my siblings, I affixed the Faith in Every Footstep Pioneer plaque to the base of the tombstone, as my parents were indeed some of the cadre of modern day pioneers that created a base in the area I grew up in from which the Church could experience the exponential growth and size it is now.

So, I disagree about there not being an adequate symbol to represent our faith.

But, in my opinion, maybe there is something unnatural about putting an Angel Moroni on the veteran's grave marker.  The two ways of life don't always seem that compatible, do they?weirdface I think that is kind of why my Dad never made a big to do about being a veteran or having been a commissioned officer.  He decided to not pursue the military lifestyle after his active duty time was up.  And, as such, he didn't put the effort in to getting that next promotion up to Captain.  hmm

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oh...the Temple is perfect! Thanks Cat! I can't believe I didn't think of that one!

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Cat Herder wrote:

But, in my opinion, maybe there is something unnatural about putting an Angel Moroni on the veteran's grave marker.  The two ways of life don't always seem that compatible, do they?weirdface 


Moroni was a warrior who fought for his country in mortality but never lost sight of the gospel.  Even when his nation turned to evil, he and his father Mormon lived righteously and still fought on against the Lamanites.  After fighting the battles of life, Moroni returned to the father and in glory and continues his work to this day, best symbolised by the angel with the trumphet as he helped herald in the restoration of the gospel and the last days.  Your dad as well as other countless faithful LDS members who served their country and served the Lord in mortality and now continue to do the work of the Father in the next life have a lot in common with Moroni.  I think the symbol is a perfectly natural one.



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Yeah, I know Jason... was just trying to play the "pacifist" ticket there. wink.gif

That was actually more what I thought when I saw the Community of Christ (former RLDS) symbol. They are good people, but as I've understood it (and I may well be wrong), they have increasingly moved more towards the Quaker ideology as far as military service.

I wonder if we could go back and as a family have my Dad's marker redone to include the Moroni symbol on it. If so, we would probably have to pay the VA for it.

Truth be said, my Dad was a pretty humble guy (which is probably a big part of why he didn't always go around talking about having been a military officer for several years). He was not known to even tell us as family all the professional honors and awards he was given. We were astonished at the big box of plaques and what have you his secretary and colleagues gave us when they cleaned his office. He didn't even put them on the wall in his office.

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Your dad sounds like a great guy Cat. It takes a big man in this day and age not to brag about hid accomplishments. A stone in a cemetery is just a stone but the legacy we leave for our family is the true monument to our accomplishments in mortality.

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If all men were like unto Moroni...

Guess it works.

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I like the symbol of Moroni. It's gallingly unapologetic.

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or... We could always use this... ctr

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I saw some Moroni markers when we visited Arlington Cemetary last year, I thought it was really nice to see.

Which reminds me my CTR sticker on the back of my car window is peeling off. It says CTR and has a picture of Moroni. Except that Moroni's head is pretty much off, I tried peeling off the whole sticker and couldn't remove it. I realized the partly decaptiated look could be contstrued as disrespectful to Moroni. I don't want to scratch the window. So I am hoping when I do my safety inspection in the next few days they will kindly remove it for me.

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I understand vinegar takes those things off... or was it C4 explosives?

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My dad is buried in a Veterans National Cemetary.  Take a look at the symbol he chose:
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That's right - there's nothing there.  I whited out the last name, but nothing else.  His was the only headstone I could find without any sort of symbol on it at all.  I guess he meant what he said on that bumpersticker "I'm not prejudiced, I hate everybody".

As he sat on his deathbed, I said "So dad, you know I'm gonna get you sealed to all 3 of your wives.  Any particular order you want me to do them in?"  He thought for a moment, and said "It doesn't matter - they're all in hell."

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HSR, your dad was only 7 1/2 years older than mine, but he lived about 5 1/2 years longer. smile.gif

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He obviously didn't buy the Mosiah Hancock dealie-bob. biggrin.gif

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HSR: Sounds like all your dad really needed was a big warm hug from me...biggrin

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