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Size Matters


Now that I've caught your attention...

Would you believe?

Hope you have broadband.

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The music is from the soundtrack to "Last of the Mohicans".  I wonder what that implies...

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Kinda cool about China speaking English... :)

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Yuck!!! What a horrible world to live in! I want less technology not more. Sometimes I feel like we are losing a bit of our humanity every time a machine takes over. We'll be all sitting in our homes cut off from the world plugged into a machine doing our jobs. No outside contact will be needed at all. That presentation and the music made me want to grab my musket, leather cartridge box, and linen clothes and head into the woods. Are we really better off then those who lived without these technologies?

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Yes, this piece was about how the world of the future is a horrible place, especially in the US. Then again, this has been a message that's been out there for a long time.

But the Lord's promises for this land and Zion are great if we will heed them and do our best to spread the word to others...

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Since we live in one, what exactly is an exponential world?

Assumptions by futurists on technology improvements and information overload does not change the core of existence.

I'm with you roper, what does the musical selection imply... get ready, cuz just like the Iroquios and other less technically savvy indigenious peoples of North America, yer gonna get swept aside by the sheer numbers of China and India?

Interesting presentation, but I think a lot of it is fear mongering and sky is falling in attitude.

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I wondered where that music was from! I loved it, but now I see the message with the music, as well.

MrCoco has a friend at work who is from China. His attitude on education is way beyond most Americans'. The Indians and the Chinese blow us away. It's wits that will win. We're not looking so good in comparison. Unfortunately, most of us don't look beyond the "My kid's an Honor Student" bumper sticker.

I don't find it fear-mongering at all. Maybe roper can fill us in some more on how our kids are doing when compared with the world...

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My husband has worked with several Chinese students over the last few years, and he noted that some of the students' problem solving skills were far below par. They were great at memorization, but not application. I thought that was interesting.

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That particular song from the film was the romance/love song entitled "The Kiss". So I guess I'm going to be romanced by future chinese technology while eating my Soylent Green! I guess I'll put the musket away and wait and see. Of course if the future is anything like Logan's Run with Michael York, I'm heading for the hills!

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Jason, I can't help but notice that the light on your wrist has gone out...
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arbilad wrote:

Jason, I can't help but notice that the light on your wrist has gone out...
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Great!! Another comment about me being a dim bulb.  I have to take it from my wife but I don't have to take it from you Arb!!biggrin



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Cocobeem wrote:

Maybe roper can fill us in some more on how our kids are doing when compared with the world...


If by "how are kids compare" you mean relative performance on standardized tests, then several countries, particularly those in Asia, do better than the US.  Those tests, however, measure memory and understanding, and limited application.  Those are the bottom three cognitive abilites on Bloom's taxonomy.  The goal of education, at least in the US, is to consistently support students in developing analytical, evaluative, and creative abilities, which are the higher-order cognitive abilities.  Standardized tests don't measure those abilities, so comparisons among countries are impossible at this point.

The countries that have the highest overall scores are also countries that have the highest engagement of parents and communities in education.  In that area, frankly, we suck.

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That reminds of some study I heard about (don't know the validity) that stated that family dinner at the table was the highest indicator of how a child did on the SATs. That's one thing I think I do right as a parent- I'm all over them with school like a duck on a junebug. biggrin

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I haven't heard of that particular study, Coco, but I wouldn't be surprised.  Despite the agenda to de-legitimize the family in education, there is a growing body of evidence that clearly shows how important the family is in the education of children.  And any teacher will tell you that her best-performing students are those students who have at least one parent who is engaged in their child's education.

I've talked about this before, but it's worth revisiting in this discussion.  The single biggest predictor of competence in literacy (speaking, reading, writing) is the amount of time a parent spent reading with his or her child, starting at a very young age.  The folks who like to quantify everything say that 2000 "lap hours" are required before Kindergarten for a child to just to meet the literacy standards in elementary schools. 3000 or more lap hours pretty much guarantee that a child will excel in literacy, barring any serious developmental issues. Of course, the stuff you read to them has to be developmentally appropriate.  "Guns & Ammo", SI swimsuit edition, or that thermodynamics text isn't gonna help them much.

So give in to those repeated requests for bedtime stories!

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It's bad to read guns and ammo to your kids at bed time. Darnit! Another parenting blunder!!!!

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So kids don't really care about adiabatic processes through turbines that increase the entropy of a fluid?

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Developmentally appropriate... hmm.... But the subject matter- I think they will like to learn about what you like. Because you're excited about it, you know? Like I love horses, and my 10 yo daughter loves horses now. biggrin  Plus, you'll be able to teach them more and your enthusiasm will rub off on them, even if it doesn't stick forever, huh?

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salesortonscom wrote:

It's bad to read guns and ammo to your kids at bed time. Darnit! Another parenting blunder!!!!




You don't mean to say that my 17 month old doesn't care about whether you can use .38 ammo in a pistol chambered for .357 magnum, do you? 



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arbilad wrote:

salesortonscom wrote:

It's bad to read guns and ammo to your kids at bed time. Darnit! Another parenting blunder!!!!




You don't mean to say that my 17 month old doesn't care about whether you can use .38 ammo in a pistol chambered for .357 magnum, do you? 




Maybe a month early on that one but who knows.  Every kid develops at their own pace.  Does the 17 month old have a mobile made up of spent cartridges?  If so then she is probably ready for it.



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They were great at memorization, but not application. I thought that was interesting.

My daughter's experience teaching English IN China was much the same...  The students are very good at some things but not so great at other things... like problem solving especially... and few of the native teachers were very good at it.  Her experience was that they ARE very LOVING and spiritual... she feels that once the Gospel is being preached in that country freely that things may change very much for them.  The spirit really changes people in general.

You know this is where I get my nickname from... Its that whole glass half-full/half-empty attitude.... I thought the whole idea that so many future problems would need to be solved by our children during their lives, and that the solutions are things we can't even imagine... was really cool... My kids are brilliant!  So many kids today can and probably will have bright, wonderful futures... Personally I think we need to stay close to the Savior and the Father though to tap into those blessings, but they will stay available even in a "future"  tumultuous world...

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With technology running rampant the way it is I suppose the real danger is not that machines will begin to think like men, but that men will begin to think like machines.

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