no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing... the truth of God will go forth till it has penetrated every website, sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished and the great Jehovah shall say the work is done
Just one more day and you'll meet him. I hope that you'll find the experience enjoyable.
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If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! - Samuel Adams
He is just fantastic. Exactly what America needs... and now!
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no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing... the truth of God will go forth till it has penetrated every website, sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished and the great Jehovah shall say the work is done
Mitt Romney's policy flip flops and compromises of principles which I expect of any good LDS candidate iwhile trying to win the election as Governor in liberal Massachusetts, and now reversing course to appeal to the religious Republican right, and no doubt Mormon voters, disappoints me. I consider Ron Paul the only principled candidate currently in the running.
I believe Romney would have to compromise a lot more on Church principles, including constitutional principles, to get the green light from the Republican Party. I think only if McCain, Gingrich and Giuliani really came up with a lot more egg on their faces than they have now could Romney make the primaries.
I have wondered why Romney chose to run. Like Ron Paul, he surely knows the odds and the powers arrayed against him. I can only surmise that he may be running to try to generate favourable attention to the Church.
I agree that it seems that Romney has flipped on a couple issues. But when has he flopped? When has he gone from opinion 1 to opinion 2 and back to opinion 1 again?
Lundbaek: Do you think it is possible to be a public policy maker, to respect the will of the governed, and give policy for differing populations at varrying degrees of righteousness, and still hold high personal standards?
Didn't Moses do precisely this when he gave them the law of Moses, instead of the Law of the Gospel.
I think you judge him harshly and unfairly, but that's my opinion. I'll leave it to you as an exercise to prove that your witness is not false.
--Ray
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I'm not slow; I'm special. (Don't take it personally, everyone finds me offensive. Yet somehow I manage to live with myself.)
Ray, there's a difference between bearing false witness (basically telling a deliberate lie) and conveying false information. Lundbaek has shown no sign of deliberate prevarication, and so at worst he's guilty of conveying false information. I think it's up to you to prove prevarication. We try to assume the best of each other on this board.
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If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! - Samuel Adams
Touche, Ray. But lundbaek is not running for public office, is he?
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If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! - Samuel Adams
So Mahonri, I'd love to hear more about your experience with Romney. The more I hear about him, the more excited I am for what it might mean for our country were he to win... I think it'd be fantastic. It's been a while since I've felt so optimistic about a candidate.
--Ray
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I'm not slow; I'm special. (Don't take it personally, everyone finds me offensive. Yet somehow I manage to live with myself.)
I have not really expressed my complete opinion of Mitt Romney, nor have I made up false stories about him. I have posted those of others, most recently excerpts from an article by LDS investigative reporter David Bresnahan. I think I also included a critical comment of Romney by Elder Henry B. Eyring in an earlier post. I realize that he too has changed his expressed opinion. I have not. Around the time he ran for and served as governor of MA he demonstrated a lack of principles I'd like to think he had acquired, or should have acquired, as a member of the LDS Church. It seems to me he is now trying to demonstrate principles more in line with those of our Church. And that should answer the question about Romney's flip and flop.
True, I'm not running for public office, but I had hoped to run for Congress in 2004 until a mosquito or whatever carrying west nile virus got hold of me. I wanted to represent the Constitution Party against J.D. Hayworth, and try to instill appreciation of constitutional and moral principles in the AZ voters at least.
I calls 'em as I sees 'em, and if that rattles a few cages, they probably need to be rattled.
Just as the Church has it's detractors, so will Mitt.
I've met him, I've shook his hand, I've looked him in the eye and I've felt his spirit. He is genuine.
He want's to make America great again. He wants to bring values back to the American people. I'm not worried. He will use the bully pulpit... not as a Latter-day Saint, but as a man who has family values. He is the best hope for any of that to happen when compared with the other available candidates. He loves the sinner without accepting the sin. That is a true leader.
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no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing... the truth of God will go forth till it has penetrated every website, sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished and the great Jehovah shall say the work is done
Mahonri, I most likely will not have the luxury of shaking his hand and looking him in the eye. So how do I find out if he is genuine when I only have his own statements and past history to go off of? I don't mean to come off combative but the majority of people will not be able to do what you did to find out the measure of the man. So how will Mitt be able to convince us skeptics?
I think once you see him along side McCain and Guliani, the choice will be clear. Neither of them can compare with him.
I loved the way Sean Hannity called upon Republican's today to stop being religious bigots. He said if 27 percent of them would not vote for Mitt there was only one reason... his faith.
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no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing... the truth of God will go forth till it has penetrated every website, sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished and the great Jehovah shall say the work is done
Mahonri wrote:I think once you see him along side McCain and Guliani, the choice will be clear. Neither of them can compare with him.
I think that goes without saying, but that leads us (some of us) back to the idea of voting for the least offensive candidate. Mitt has some convincing to do. I'm with Lund on this, but am willing to listen to Mitt and let him try to convince me that I should vote for him.
