Where does America fit into the End Times Prophecies? What do you think? I have heard all sorts of bizzarre and not so bizarre ideas about America, yet of course oldtestament prophets didn't even have a clue about such a land, did they?
If you can, back up your ideas with quotes from prophets or scripture...
--Ray
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Isaiah 26:20-21 The saints will be separated from the world and will hide themselves for a moment while the Lord punishes the wicked.
D&C 61:15-16 In the last days, by the mouth of John, I cursed the waters. Wherefore, the days will come that no flesh shall be safe upon the waters. In days to come none will be able to go up to the land of Zion upon the waters, but he that is upright in heart.
ET Benson Oct:1988 (Conference Report) A SECRET COMBINATION that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries is INCREASING its evil influence and control over America and the entire world.
America could be defined as Zion....
1 Nephi 21:14-16 Due to the many trials and afflictions to befall the righteous, Zion will say that the Lord hath forsaken them. But the Lord will show his people that he has not forgotten Zion.
D&C 115:6 The saints will gather together(in stakes) as a defense and as a refuge from the storm during a period when the wrath of God shall be poured upon the earth.
D&C 133:12 Let them who are among the Gentiles flee unto Zion. Zion is with the pure in heart.
D&C 45:68-69 The saints shall be gathered unto Zion out of every nation under heaven. Every man who will not take his sword against his neighbor must flee to Zion.
D&C 63:33-37 As wars are decreed upon the earth the saints will gather to Zion and will declare by word and by FLIGHT that desolation will come upon the wicked.
Joseph Smith 3:390-91 (History of the Church) When wars come we shall have to flee to Zion. The time is soon coming when there shall not be any peace but in Zion.
JF Smith 24:156-57 (JD) How some of us may be gathered to Jackson; I see two or three hundred thousand people wending their way across the plain enduring nameless hardships of the journey. I fear that the sifting process would be insufficient were we to travel by railroad.
O Pratt 12:345 (JD) In the heart of the American continent will be a place of refuge and safety from the storms that come upon the wicked.
Joseph Smith Mattew 1:27 Mine elect shall be gathered from the four quarters of the earth.
Moses 7:18 And the Lord called his people Zion, because they were of one heart and one mind, and dwelt in righteousness, and there was no poor among them.
Joseph Smith 3:62 (TPJS) One definition of Zion is: The whole of America is Zion itself from North to South, it is Zion where the mountain of the Lord should be, in the center of the land.
Just some thoughts
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Here are some more prophetic statements which I believe I see happening in America now, in addition to the good ones posted by Mahonri.
3 Nephi 16 10) ...At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall reject the fullness of my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations, and above all the people of the whole earth, and shall be filled with all manner of lyings, and of deceits, and of mischiefs, and all manner of hypocrisy, and murders, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and of secret combinations; and if they shall do all those things, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel,...I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them.
11) And then will I remember me covenant which have made unto my people, O house of Israel,...
13) But if the Gentiles will repent and return unto me,...they shall be numbered among my people, O house of Israel.
14) And I will not suffer my people, who are of the house of Israel, to go through among them, and tread them down,...
15) But if they will not turn unto me, and hearken unto my voice,... I will suffer... my people,...that they shall go through among them, and shall tread them down,...
3 Nephi 20:
14) And the Father hath commanded me that I should give unto you this land, for your inheritance.
15) And I say unto you, that if the Gentiles do not repent after the blessing which they shall receive, after they have scattered my people-
16) Then shall ye, who are a remnant of the house of Jacob, go forth among them; and ye shall be in the midst of them who shall be many; and ye shall be among them as a lion among the beasts of the forest, and as a young lion among the flocks of sheep, who, if he goeth through both treadeth down and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.
22) ...this people will I establish in this land, unto the fulfilling of the covenant which I made with your father Jacob; and it shall be a new Jerusalem.
3 Nephi 21:
4) For it is wisdom in the Father that they should be established in this land, and be set up as a free people by the power of the Father, that these things might come forth from them unto a remnant of your seed, that the covenant of the Father may be fulfilled which he hath covenanted with his people, O house of Israel.
12) And my people who are a remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles, yea, in the midst of them as a lion among the beasts of the forest, as a young lion among the flocks of sheep, who, if he go through both treadeth down and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver.
13) Their hand shall be lifted up upon their adversaries, and all their enemies shall be cut off.
14) Yea, wo be unto the Gentiles except they repent; for it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Father, that I will cut off thy horses out of the midst of thee, and I will destroy thy chariots;
15) And I will cut off the cities of thy land, and throw down all thy strongholds;
16) And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thy land, and thou shall have no more soothsayers;
17) Thy graven images I will also cut off, and thy standing images out of the midst of thee, and thou shalt no more worship the works of thy hands;
18) And I will pluck up thy groves our of the midst of thee; so will I destroy thy cities.
19) And it shall come to pass that all thy lyings, and deceivings, and envyings, and strifes, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, shall be done away.
20) ...whosoever will not repent and come unto my Beloved Son, them will I cut off from among my people, O house of Israel,
21 And I will execute vengeance and fury upon them, even as upon the heathen, such as they have not heard.
22 But if they will repent and hearken unto my words, and harden not their hearts, I will establish my church among them, and they shall come in unto the covenant and be numbered among this the remnant of Jacob, unto whom I have given this land for their inheritance;
23 And they shall assist my people, the remnant of Jacob, and also as many of the house of Israel as shall come, that they may build a city, which shall be called the New Jerusalem.
24 And then shall they assist my people that they may be gathered in, who are scattered upon all the face of the land, in unto the New Jerusalem.
25 And then shall the power of heaven come down among them, and I also will be in the midst.
2 Nephi 26:
14) But behold, I prophecy unto you concerning the last days;...
20) And the Gentiles are lifted up in the pride of their eyes, and have stumbled, because of the greatness of their stumbling block, that they have built up many churches; nevertheless, they put down the power and miracles of God, and preach up unto themselves their own wisdom and their own learning, that they may get gain and grind upon the face of the poor.
22) And there are also secret combinations, even as in times of old, according to the combinations of the devil,...
Revelation 13:
1, JST) And I saw another sign, in the likeness of the kingdoms of the earth; a beast rise up out of the sea, and he stood upon the sand of the sea, having seven heads...
2) ...and the dragon gave him power, and his seat, and great authority.
3) ...all the world wondered after the beast.
4) And they worshiped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?
5) And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6) And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7) And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
What kind of country are we when it makes such news that Britney Spears shaves her head bald .... and what kind of media do we have that pushes such "news" ahead of real troubles just ahead for the country? Clearly the public is being deceived. ABC "news" had stories of her with head shaved and getting tatoos.
you are correct lb... it's past time to get our water and food supplies.
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Mahonri wrote: you are correct lb... it's past time to get our water and food supplies.
Ooh, ooh! I have mine! Am I a good saint?
Actually I need a few more pounds of rice, some wheat, and some peanut butter. The recall affected my peanut butter storage. My wife doesn't like peanut butter anyway, so now we'll go to nutella.
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If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! - Samuel Adams
Actually, I think we need to do more that just get our food and water supplies. For years we have heard of the role the elders could play in saving the Constitution from total destruction. But how can the elders be expected to save it if they have not studied it and are not sure if it is being destroyed or what is destroying it? I recently came across a story related and commented on by Ezra Taft Benson in "An Enemy Hath Done This"
"An informed patriotic gentile was dumbfounded when he heard of Joseph Smith's reported prophecy regarding the mission our elders could perform in saving the Constitution. He lived in a Mormon community with nice people who were busily engaged in other activities but who had little concern in preserving their freedom. He wondered if maybe a letter should not be sent to President McKay, urging him to release some of the elders from their present Church activities so there would be a few who could help step forward to save the Constitution.
"Now it is not so much a case of a man giving up all his other duties to fight for freedom, as it is a case of a man getting his life in balance so he can discharge all of his God-given responsibilities. And of all these responsibilities President McKay has said that we have "no greater immediate responsibility" than "to protect the freedom vouchsafed by the Constitution of the United States.""
lundbaek wrote: What kind of country are we when it makes such news that Britney Spears shaves her head bald .... and what kind of media do we have that pushes such "news" ahead of real troubles just ahead for the country? Clearly the public is being deceived. ABC "news" had stories of her with head shaved and getting tatoos.
BTW, lundbaek, you've heard the phrase "bread and circuses", right? The Roman empire distracted the citizens from their problems by making sure they had enough to eat, and keeping them entertained to distract them from their real problems.
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If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! - Samuel Adams
