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Hillary is scary


 Read this:

 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-6-2566485-6,00.html

Money quote:

 

"As you consider her career this past 15 years or so in the public spotlight, it is impossible not to be struck, and even impressed, by the sheer ruthless, unapologetic, unshameable way in which she has pursued this ambition, and confirmed that there is literally nothing she will not do, say, think or feel to achieve it. Here, finally, is someone who has taken the black arts of the politician’s trade, the dissembling, the trimming, the pandering, all the way to their logical conclusion."



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Yay for Sin!!!

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Can you say... daughter of Jared?  How about Jezebel?  Or how about simply Lady MacBeth?  (note, honest... I came up with the Lady MacBeth thing before even reading or looking at the article... what can I say, great minds think alike? )

She is scarey, indeed... what little bit of photogenic ability she may have had at one time is long gone... and then add on the fake New York accent she is trying to use when she talks. 

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So once she reaches the White House, the question is not, "Will she be liberal?" but "How liberally will she govern?".  What hides behind that evolving facade is what chills me.......

Madam Rodham is a devoted Marxist who will strike down parental rights any chance she can.  And enough Americans will be....I repeat.....WILL BE stupid to enough to cast their vote for her solely upon the novelty of a woman President.    

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If this nation sends that charlatan to the White House, I will give up all hope in the political process.  I am that close to despair.

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Wow. I'm so tempted to vote for Hillary, after all these extermist reactions.



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bokbadok wrote:
If this nation sends that charlatan to the White House, I will give up all hope in the political process.  I am that close to despair.
You still have hope?



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Hillary would truly be very bad for this country. But not one of the other major party candidates would be a lot better.

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If you think I'm extreme, I have two words for you:

JOCELYN ELDERS

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Mitt Romney is a much better candidate than any of the others, so Arb, you're wrong.

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rayb wrote:
Mitt Romney is a much better candidate than any of the others, so Arb, you're wrong.

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 Well, Ray, we'll have to agree to disagree there. So far nothing that anyone has said about him really helps him to stand out for me. Sure, he's a mormon - but that's not a guarantee that he'll make a good president. Reid is a mormon, and I think he's a failure as a senator.

If I liked Romney's policies, that would be another thing. But I don't. 



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From a co-worker.  Don't know how much of this is verifiable and how much is urban legend conspiracy theory crapola... but, interesting nonetheless.


 Just passing this along.  Too much to verify.

 SO NOW YOU MIGHT VOTE FOR HILLARY? THINK ABOUT IT FIRST.......

 This is what happens when you have dirt on the Clintons:

 1 - James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an

 apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

 2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at

 a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of

 sexual harassment in the White House.

 3 - Vince Foster - Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

 4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman.  Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

 5 - C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

 6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992... Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor."

 7- Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide.  Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

 8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

 9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

 10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

 11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

 12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

 13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

 14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.( RULED AS A LIKELY SUICIDE)

 15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

 16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992.  She died in a one car accident.

 17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter.  Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

 18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment.  Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death.

 19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.

 20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

 21- Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

 22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

 23 - Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

 24 - Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

 25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee.  His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

 26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

 27 - Kevin Ives and Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

 THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

 28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck  July 1988.

 29 - Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988 (PROBABLY ALSO A SUICIDE)

 30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

 31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

 33 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled  his death was due to "natural causes."( THAT MAY ALSO HAVE BEEN A SUICIDE)

 34 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

 35 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

 THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:

 36 - Major William S. Barkley Jr.

 37 - Captain Scott J. Reynolds

 38 - Sgt. Brian Hanleyt 39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel

 40 - Major General William Robertson

 41 - Col. William Densberger

 42 - Col. Robert Kelly

 43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes

 44 - Steve Willis

 45 - Robert Williams

 46 - Conway LeBleu

 47 - Todd McKeehan

 Quite an impressive list!   Be aware of what happens to anyone who might damage the Clinton machine!

 AFTER HAVING READ THE LIST, IT MIGHT BE MORE DANGEROUS NOT TO VOTE FOR THE SWEETHEART.



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I think it was Vince Foster where he ingeniously committed suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head with two different caliber pistols. He was a pretty talented guy.

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Have you seen the new Hillary Bumper Sticker?  It's popular with both parties.

"Run Hillary Run!"

Democrats put it on the back bumper.

Republicans put it on the front.




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Can you believe this person was once a Republican?

But here is the WORST thing about her:

Her voice.  Listen to her voice.  Fingernails on the screaching-est chalkboard known to humanity.

And ask yourself:

Could you stand listening to THAT voice on every news show, and every presidential speach for eight years?

And our poor soldiers.  Could you imagine the mass suicides that would occur when, after months of facing down the enemy, they have to listen to that caterwauling when they get a piped in pep talk from the commander-trix in chief?



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RE: Hillary is VERY scary


Hillary winning the Demoncrat nomination would be the best thing to put Mitt into the White House.

I don't know if he can beat Edwards... and Obama's campaign will be short lived.

Ah, Mitt Romney, the next great American President.

Reasons Mitt should be our next President.

1. Since women got the vote, the most handsome candidate has always won.  My wife says Mitt is handsome.  (Some would debate this point w/ Goldwater and Johnson.... both non-handsome men)

2.  Not since Kennedy has a Senator won the White House.  Former Governors Bush, Clinton, Reagan and Carter all made it to the White House. 
Senators Kerry, Dole lost recent elections. (Dukakis was a Governor from MA but his photo op in the tank, tanked him.
 
3.  He comes from a Blue state.

4.  His values are not Democrat nor overly Republican.  They are American.

5.  Guiliani is too liberal, McCain is too old AND too liberal AND a senator. (I've lived here 20 years and have never once voted for him, I met him and sat arms length away from him at a Bush fundraiser.)
 
6.  Mitt has great experience with the Olympics and business and a decent record as Governor.

7.    I don't believe he has any skeletons in the closet.

8.   He is used to working with Democrats and getting things done.

9.   He could give the French (or Canada for that matter) a piece of his mind. (went to Paris on his 2.5 year mission)

10.  He is smart and articulate and has a quick wit.  He is a smooth talker.  (Bush has just been painful to listen to when he's reading a teleprompter)

11.  It's time for a Mormon in the White House.  Can you imagine how busy our missionaries will be if he simply wins the Republican nomination?  Folks are going to want to know more about our religion.






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RE: Hillary is scary


All Romney needs is more exposure.  His eloquence and good looks have already won over people in the South.  Fortunately his uniqeness amongst the candidates  also gives him some airtime, not to mention a top-notch fundraising machine.  But if the polls are any indicator ( which is not always the case, of course ), he has serious ground to gain in '07 if he wishes to stop McCain in the primaries.  McCain would lose to Hillary, no doubt. 

Here's a real question: could Romney be the next Reagan, or did we break that mold? They are already comparing Madam Rodham to Margaret Thatcher. What a joke!!!

(I'm derailing, I apologize)......

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Hillary Clinton similar to Margaret Thatcher?  Please... beyond the fact they are both female and politicians, I think that is where the similarity ends.  Wasn't Prime Minister Thatcher a conservative, both politically, fiscally, and ideologically?  And, though I haven't seen any pictures, I could presume that Margaret Thatcher was a bit of a looker in her younger days... Hillary?  Well, it is hardly a question who would win in a beauty contest between Hillary, Medusa, and a bull-dog... The bull-dog, with Medusa in a close second... 



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More exposure for Romney


I think you are right about the exposure.

He has spent some time in Iowa.  The "mormons" against Romney group even claim that his campaign spent big bucks for booze at some Iowa fundraisers.  (What a silly reason not to vote for him.) 

I think he'll have a good showing in Iowa.  If he doesn't do well in New Hampshire a neighbor of MA then he'll be done.

Right now it's all in the fundraising.  Money talks.

You all can give $$$ at this site  :0)       

http://www.mittromney.com/


(edited for spelling)



-- Edited by Mahonri at 05:39, 2007-02-05

-- Edited by Mahonri at 05:41, 2007-02-05

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RE: Hillary is scary


Defeat communism in 2008.  Vote against Hillary!

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Hillary will win the Democratic Nomination. She has a 15-20 point lead in most states and she's got the money.

The real question is whether republicans can stop her. Third parties of a conservative bent will only increase her chances to win. As distasteful as some intellectual elites will find the prospect, unless they want to hand Hillary a win, they will have to unite under the Republican umbrella, and attempt to work within those confines...

Sux cuz there's a bunch of greedy, witless, knee-jerk morons in that party too.

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SO NOW YOU MIGHT VOTE FOR HILLARY? THINK ABOUT IT FIRST.......

 Yeah, so...here's your friendly neighborhood Snopes analysis.

In case you actually read the whole list...ask yourself why Monica isn't on it?  Apparently the assassins were busy that day.

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snopes says this is not true.

wonder if snopes is run by the Clintons?

-- Edited by Mahonri at 22:39, 2007-02-11

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Posts and comments along the lines where we imply that Hillary is a psycho killer or a murderer or a gadianton robber, while you may be convinced they're true, will only cause people to shrink from the more important issues at hand, and view you as a nut or a conspiracy theorist.

It will only make you easier to dismiss so that when you make legitimate criticism of her poorly thought out policies and agendae, it won't matter...

--Ray

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