The TGIF Thread...

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

The TGIF Thread...

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

That's easy, if I was on Gilligan's Island I would make a boat and convince the Skipper, Gilligan, the Howell's, and the professor it was their duty to go out on the sea and try and be rescued while I stayed back and made sure Ginger and Marry Ann were safe! Someone would have to make that sacrifice and I would be willing to do it even though it would mean having to deal with that constant annoyances of Sigmond the Sea Monster and that nosey HR Puffinstuff! Oh and if we did get rescued I would sell that annoying magic flute in a heartbeat!

Also, that Professor was completely useless. The man could make anything out of a coconut but could figure out a way to fix the Minnow.

-- Edited by salesortonscom at 11:23, 2006-10-13

Jeffery_LQ1W · Senior Member

Topic for today: If you were on Gilligan's Island, what would you do to make life more comfortable? Alternate theme, compare the castaway society to the typical LDS Ward... So, and grab some and let the Riverdancing begin...

First I would kick everyone off the island except Mary Ann and Ginger. Then I would enquire of the Lord regarding plural marriage.

-- Edited by Jeffery_LQ1W at 11:45, 2006-10-13

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

Jeffery_LQ1W wrote:

Topic for today: If you were on Gilligan's Island, what would you do to make life more comfortable? Alternate theme, compare the castaway society to the typical LDS Ward... So, and grab some and let the Riverdancing begin...

First I would kick everyone off the island except Mary Ann and Ginger. Then I would enquire of the Lord regarding plural marriage.

-- Edited by Jeffery_LQ1W at 11:45, 2006-10-13

I must repent! I forgot to inquire of the Lord on the whole plural marriage aspect. Of course if the island is unclaimed territory you could set up your own government with very lax divource and marriage laws, divource the one and marry the other multiple times. I suppose that would be playing a little fast and loose with things. If push came to shove though I would give Ginger the boot. She was just too high maintenance. Plus when HR Puffinstuff got out of line, Mary Ann would more than be able to beat him down!

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

{Comes Riverdancing through the thread... indeed not a pretty sight with a fat man...}

Okay, what character would you be on Gilligan's island then? I realize I didn't quite make that clear... so, you can't "replace" all the competition...

Personally wondering how all the Banana Cream pies got made... Either Mrs. Howell was conducting some great Enrichment Nights for the local RS, or it was a scientific byproduct of all the coconut radios invented by The Professor...

Can anyone tell me the connection between Magnum PI, The Brady Bunch, and Gilligan's Island?

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

Actor Alan Hale Jr. appeared in all three series? I know he was on Magnum once and a ton of other different series'. If he wasn't on all those series' he certainly had one degree of separation with his co-actors from Gilligan's Island. I think all of them appeared on Alf at one time or another. http://www.gilligansisle.com/credits.html

What character would I be. I would have to go with the professor because he seemed to know what he was doing. Keep em on the island, let them slowly go crazy, and be the only one left for poor Mary Ann and Ginger! Plus the coconut inventions would make things much more comfortable!

-- Edited by salesortonscom at 12:07, 2006-10-13

Jeffery_LQ1W · Senior Member

Since it is October, I will guess with the Halloween theme. All three had Vincent Price as guests.

-- Edited by Jeffery_LQ1W at 12:55, 2006-10-13

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

Jeffery_LQ1W wrote:

Since it is October, I will guess with the Halloween theme. All three had Vincent Price as guests.

-- Edited by Jeffery_LQ1W at 12:43, 2006-10-13

Oh that's a good one! I hadn't thought about that one! Yer probably right! Either that or Phylis Diller. Wasn't she on all three of them? I know she was on Scooby Doo!

I never could understand why those evil lizard people the Sleestaks didn't catch Gilligan. It wasn't like he was super intelligent or anything!

-- Edited by salesortonscom at 12:50, 2006-10-13

-- Edited by salesortonscom at 13:00, 2006-10-13

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

Good guesses, but none of those were the ties I was thinking of... remember, you've got to think TGIF in getting the link between all three shows. In other words, think spoof, parady, the type of movie you watch just to wind down on a Friday evening... one that does not require the use of your brain...

Think "A Very Brady Sequel"...

(from Wikipedia on Gilligan's Island, trivia): The Movie A Very Brady Sequel created a link between The Brady Bunch and Gilligan's Island in the form of Carol Brady's former husband being revealed to be the Professor (though this was clearly intended more as an in-joke than as an actual link, because Carol Brady's ex-husband is named Roy Martin, while the Professor is Roy Hinkley). Additionally, Gilligan's father was shown to have funded the Minnow's journey in search of a rare statue. He then imagined the horror of the crew surviving the storm and being trapped on some "uncharted desert isle".

The actor who who is revealed to be Gilligan's father in that brief, but ever so funny scene near the end of the movie, is none other than the same actor who played the enigmatic estate "caretaker" Higgins from Magnum PI. Thus, Carol Brady's first husband was The Professor, and Gilligan was the son of Higgins.

Well, at least the Cat Herders think it is funny...

Jeffery_LQ1W · Senior Member

Very obscure and funny.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

OK the problem here was that I never saw more than the first 15 minutes of that film so I am now completely lost. Would Jan be hotter than Marsha if she got contacts? Is it Kosher to post replies to this topic on Tuesday? Are Sid and Marty Krofft still secretly trying to influence the minds of kids? Is tomacolatte going to recieve FDA approval as a varnish remover? Is my obsession with Kate Beckinsale the result my love of tight black leather outfits? These are the things that keep me awake at night?

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

salesortonscom wrote:

OK the problem here was that I never saw more than the first 15 minutes of that film so I am now completely lost. Would Jan be hotter than Marsha if she got contacts? Is it Kosher to post replies to this topic on Tuesday? Are Sid and Marty Krofft still secretly trying to influence the minds of kids? Is tomacolatte going to recieve FDA approval as a varnish remover? Is my obsession with Kate Beckinsale the result my love of tight black leather outfits? These are the things that keep me awake at night?

Discussion on a topic may continue until a new TGIF discussion is presented, and then even after that so long as the appropriate permits and fees have been paid...

Dude, if those kind of things are keeping you up at night (with the exception of the tomacolatte FDA approval thing so our patent isn't a useless waste of marketing funds), please cease ingesting tomacolatte after 9:53 p.m., have ready a video tape of segments from Best of Antique Road Show interspersed with segments of The Joy of Painting (and if the insomnia is really bad, you may want to throw some of those BYU religion professors having scripture study on BYU-TV in to the mix), and use an IV drip of Celestial Seasoning's Sleeping Time herbal tea (preferably double or triple strength).

Jeffery_LQ1W · Senior Member

salesortonscom wrote:

OK the problem here was that I never saw more than the first 15 minutes of that film so I am now completely lost. Would Jan be hotter than Marsha if she got contacts? Is it Kosher to post replies to this topic on Tuesday? Are Sid and Marty Krofft still secretly trying to influence the minds of kids? Is tomacolatte going to recieve FDA approval as a varnish remover? Is my obsession with Kate Beckinsale the result my love of tight black leather outfits? These are the things that keep me awake at night?

Long live HR Puffnstuff and the suggestive drug culture of that show.

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

Ahhhh! Now I know why my parents (Dad was Bishop in the mid '70's) steared me clear of watching that show on a regular basis! I knew there was a reason I was a Captain Kangaroo man growing up!

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

I guess I never noticed any drug references in the Krofft shows. I was hooked on Land of the Lost big time. I watched it all the time. By today's standards it was pretty campy but at the time it was pretty bold to have a serialized show made just for kids that had a detailed, mentally involved plot. I can still appreciate it for the well done story lines. By today's sci fi standards the writing was pretty darn good. If they had the budget of some of today's bigger sci fi series I think there would be many adults watching it.

Of course, I guess you would have to have a predisposition for drug use to watch HR Puffinstuff and Sigmond the Sea Monster. That stuff was just wierd. I did read that for a short while the Kroffts actually had their own theme park but attendence was bad due to the part of town it was located in so they shut down after less than a year. The rides were suppossedly pretty good for their time.

MUST NOT GET DISTRACTED BY KATE BECKINSALE.....

Err, sorry. To many vampire movies....

-- Edited by salesortonscom at 16:15, 2006-10-18

Euphrasie · Senior Bucketkeeper

Ah...Van Helsing...

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

We didn't get a new TGIF topic on Friday Cat. I was lost that day without it!

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

Okay, here is the TGIF topic for the past Friday...

The Muppet Show or M*A*S*H... what character would others mistake you for? Please describe sufficiently to prove your point. Extra credit if you can show your personality matches a character in both shows.

arbilad · Head Chef

For some reason, I always identified with Ralph the Dog, although I hate dogs and I can't play the piano.
Others would probably identify me as one of the pigs from Pigs in Space.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

On the muppets I would say I'm one of the old guys who jokes and heckles the acts. I find myself routinely doing this in work and church meetings and can usually get someone else to join in. MASH the TV show or the movie? On Mash the TV show I would say I'm more like Trapper. I'm cynical yet love to play the practical jokes but I'm not as bold as Hawkeye at playing them. I do practical jokes at church, home, and at work all the time but I'm just not as loud as Hawkeye. Trapper was always my favorite character. I was never that much into BJ. He was just too serious and not very funny. Trapper was liked to have fun but took his job seriously. I also thought the show was more funny before Colonial Potter. I was very upset that Col. Blake was killed in the plane crash.

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

I'm all muppets all the time...

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

rayb wrote:

I'm all muppets all the time...

Yes you are Ray, yes you are.

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

salesortonscom wrote:

I was very upset that Col. Blake was killed in the plane crash.

So were all the actors in the show... that closing scene where Radar comes into the OR and announces that the plane carrying Lt. Col. Blake was shot down over the China Sea and that there were no survivors was completely unrehearsed and completely unanticipated. None of the cast members knew about that ending until the director (or whomever) gave the sheet of paper to the guy who played Radar just before he walked the door to the OR for the closing scene... or so I have heard.

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

salesortonscom wrote:

rayb wrote:

I'm all muppets all the time...

Yes you are Ray, yes you are.

He had to say that since the topic was not about the great yellow one who is square and is a sponge and weareth pants and whose name is Bob...

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

Muppet show, I personally identified with Kermit the most (not quite fitting in, but trying to keep things sane in the midst of insanity). Others probably pictured me as Sam the Eagle or the captain of the Pigs in Space character (all stuffed shirt and pompous) or Scooter (nerd who tried to help but usually got in the way)...

M*A*S*H TV series, depending on the time frame, as a teen, I probably was most like a mixture of Burns, Winchester, and BJ. I wasn't an alpha male in my ward's young men or scouts, and I was not as laid back as others. I was one who liked having fun as a follower of the alpha males (BJ), but also had a certain level of conceit and disdain for their behavior in the next breath (Winchester) and in some instances was justly worthy of being called a hypocrite (Burns).

Jeffery_LQ1W · Senior Member

I would be a mixture of Potter and Winchester

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

Speaking of M*A*S*H can anyone tell me the title of the theme song played at the opening credits? No cheating, use only your mind not the web!

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

Suicide is Painless

Learned to play it on the pie-anna, I did, when I was about 13 or 14... If you ever actually listen to the lyrics or read them, it is not as "poignant" as the music makes out to be on the show. If I remember the story behind the song, the reason the lyrics are so depressing is they were written by a depressed teenager who may have been contemplating suicide at the time or was trying to deal with the suicide of one or more other teens he knew.

{ETA, actually the theme song was written by the movie version's director's teenage son, and was directly related to some of the movie plot, apparently... according to wikipedia...}

-- Edited by Cat Herder at 13:48, 2006-10-24

Jeffery_LQ1W · Senior Member

The plot of the original movie was that someone thought they were gay or becoming so and they wanted to commit suicide, so Hawkeye et al did this elaborate hoax in preparing them.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

Ding, ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! Congratulations Cat, you win a free Tomacolatte gift basket. Oh wait, as company co-founder you are not eligible to win prizes. But bonus points to Jeff for the plot tie in with the movie. The character who contemplated suicide was a dentist whose nickname was Painless. Actually it was the one part of the plot that I found least entertaining.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

What is the topic for TGIF Cat? Please give us a topic!

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

OK. The sound of the crickets has convinced me to start the TGIF topic this week. I will adhere to all the TGIF rules. No cheating!

Battle Star Galactica:

Who was the LDS creator of this show?

What character from the original show are you most like?

Do you like the original more than the re-make? Why?

And did life here really begin out there?

arbilad · Head Chef

Wasn't the first name of the LDS creator Richard? I can't remember.
I think I liked Apollo the most, so I'd say I'm most like him. I'd like to be like Adama.
I haven't even watched the remake. For one thing, I've heard that it's hypersexualized. For another, I don't like the thought of Cylons that are totally indistinguishable from humans. There was just something indescribably cool about guys in tin foil suits pretending to be robots.
And of course life began out there! Haven't you heard the theory that Earth was created in the orbit of Kolob, and that the fall of Adam forced the Earth to fall from that orbit into its current orbit?

Jeffery_LQ1W · Senior Member

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What is this?

Jeffery_LQ1W · Senior Member

salesortonscom wrote:

OK. The sound of the crickets has convinced me to start the TGIF topic this week. I will adhere to all the TGIF rules. No cheating!

Battle Star Galactica:

1-Who was the LDS creator of this show?

2-What character from the original show are you most like?

3-Do you like the original more than the re-make? Why?

4-And did life here really begin out there?

1-Glen Larsen

2-Which show? The new one or the old one? In the old one I would be like Colonel Tigh. In the new one I would be more like Adama, my wife is very much like Madam President.

3-I prefer the remake. In it women aren't just eye candy.

4-Define life.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

That's right Jeff. It was Glen Larson. I always enjoyed how the show mixed in stuff from LDS beliefs. Some of that has carried forward to the new series. The new series has excellent writing and great special effects but it is hypersexualized. The new Cylons (not the skin jobs) are really creepy. The ones in the old series were campy but the new Cylons are pretty scary.

Aribald, I had never heard the theory that earth once revolved around Kolob. Interesting!

Now who am I most like. I would say Apollo from the old series because he was so down to earth and always tried to do the right thing. Of coures I would have used my weapon on that stupid robot bear Moffet or Muppet or whatever his name was. I would probably also put Boxxy up for adoption after Jane Seymore got killed! The character development in the old series wasn't so good. The original Boomer was pretty cool even though he was the token black character. I'm actually probably more a hybrid of the original Boomer and the original Apollo. Now the new Boomer is super hot even for a toaster!

On the new series I would say I'm more like the Chief. Nose to the grind, trying to keep the troops going, and the bosses happy. Pretty much describes my job and most of the callings I have in the church.

With the new series I have a problem though seeing Richard Hatch AKA old Apollo as a bad guy. I have such good memories of the original show as a kid. My friends and I would pretend we were from the Galactica fighting the evil Cylons. I even had a toy Cylon fighter with a Cylong figure that went into theprismpit. I wish I still had that toy. It's probably worth a fortune now. That and my old Star Wars figures, my GI Joes, and my original Atari and games.

Pt314 · Senior Member

arbilad wrote:

And of course life began out there! Haven't you heard the theory that Earth was created in the orbit of Kolob, and that the fall of Adam forced the Earth to fall from that orbit into its current orbit?

Just to let you know that that theory started in the same period that doctrinal speculation was more wide spread then now. Not everything that a prophet says at anytime is official doctrine.

It may be true, it may not be true. Just like evolution, there is no official church position.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

The filter changed one of my words to theprismpit instead of the word that sounds like a male chicken pit. You know that place where you sit when you fly intergallactic space craft!

Randy · Senior Member

salesortonscom wrote:

1. Who was the LDS creator of this show?

2. What character from the original show are you most like?

3. Do you like the original more than the re-make? Why?

4. And did life here really begin out there?

1. Glen Larsen

2. Most like the lady who's always typing on that QWERTY keyboard. Because I'm always typing on a QWERTY keyboard too. If these people have no recent connection to us, why do they use a QWERTY keyboard? Identical to ours down to the question mark, ampersand, and semicolon.

3. Yes, I like the original more than the remake because the original did not have to resort to murdering an infant in order to get a reaction from the audience. While it's true that I like the original more than the remake it seems more correct to say I hated the original less than the remake.

4. No, life didn't begin anywhere.

-- Edited by Randy at 17:00, 2006-10-27

Roper · Senior Bucketkeeper

There's a remake?

I think I'm probably most like one of the nondescript Viper pilots who gets blown outta the stars by the Cylons on a regular basis.

I still remember the episode when the Galacticites made contact with a super-advanced race, kinda like angels, and I recall Adama? making the comment, "As we are, they once were. As they are, we may become." Thanks, Bro. Larsen

Euphrasie · Senior Bucketkeeper

Jeffery_LQ1W wrote:

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Three blind mice.

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Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

Okay, my bad again...

Here it is Sunday evening 1 1/2 hours before my semi-annual PPI with the Elder's Quorum president and I'm just now realizing that I didn't leave you all a TGIF topic, but thanks for covering Jason...

Battlestar Galactica... most addictive sci-fi drama... but alas, I missed this weeks episode.

Busy Friday for me. 5:15 a.m. up to take daughter to seminary. 5:45 a.m. stop off at Walgreens with daughter on way to seminary to get Friday treats for seminary class because she forgot to remind us Thursday evening 6:05 a.m. get to seminary, wait until about 6:50 a.m. until kids are done and I can take daughter to school. 7:00 a.m. drop daughter off at high school, go home. from then until 9:00 a.m. gather camping stuff together for scout campout, shower, get dressed, go to store buy food for campout and rain gear (foul weather predicted). 10:00 a.m. show up in office to finish work needed to get done. 12:00 noon get back home, hurriedly change from jeans Friday attire to business suit dress for brother's 20th anniversary with company lunch at "swanky" restaurant in downtown Toledo, OH... 12:30, on road finally to get to brother's lunch celebration at 1:30 p.m. 85+ miles away... 1:45 p.m. get to downtown Toledo and start circling the block the restaurant is on looking for free valet parking the restaurant advertised on it's website. After 4 times around the block, give up and park in paid lot across the street, get out, walk across the street in the rain, go into restaurant. Only patrons are a couple men at the bar, but the staff leads me to a back room, and there is my brother with 7 other people he has worked with over the years from the company. I am suddenly very out of place. Yes, swanky restaurant, but I'm the only one dressed up other than the restuarant staff... everyone else is still either in Friday jeans or business casual attire... Eat food, drive back home, takes 1 1/2 hours to get from downtown Detroit back to my home (was supposed to have been at the campsite to meet the rest of the troop and fathers by 6 p.m.)... barely get on the road again for the 40 minute drive north to the campsite at 7:30 p.m. Call scoutmaster on cell to tell him I'm finally on way, find out he has been stuck in traffic behind an accident for 1/2 hour himself with the troop, but that they'll be there shortly. Don't feel so bad, except that I still have to get through that part of the freeway myself... luckily traffic all cleared. Get to campsite at 8:00 p.m. and see that it is raining and has been raining all day. Get out and put rain gear on, go down to where my patrol is set up, and all seems to be going well... then I have to get my assistant scoutmaster tent up in rain and dark... smoke shifts immediately in my direction and tent direction as soon as I show up... tent is new, and by 12:30 a.m., I bug out and sleep in van as the tent is leaking in all four corners and I have no desire to be wet and cold with standing water in the bottom of a two man tent that is hardly big enough for me to lay down and roll over in (I guess 2 person meant 2 children)...

And that was my Friday

And no, I didn't get to see Dr. Who or Battlestar Galactica...

One thing I've noticed on the new Battlestar series is it seems to give a very good description of people who, for the most part, resemble the Jaredites and Nephites right at the end... they slept on their swords. Their sorrow is the sorrow of the damned. You have a few that are still relatively good people, but for the most part, their hope is vain and shallow.

ETA... Oh, and if I were someone on the new Battlestar series, it would probably be Chief... a good hearted guy who just gets the job done, doesn't do anything glamorous, and sometimes gets hurt in the process of being loyal and dutiful but rebounds and usually doesn't have his faith shaken...

-- Edited by Cat Herder at 17:23, 2006-10-29

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

I wish I could stomach more Battlestar Galactica, but it was just too sexual, and dark for my tastes. I got the first season on DVD last year, and my wife has asked if I wanted to get the next one, but honestly, I just couldn't justify it.

I do like Serenity, and nothing compares to B5.

--Ray

Jeffery_LQ1W · Senior Member

Babylon 5 was an epic series, well written.

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

Ah! Yes! Now there is a fine example of literary drama in the sci-fi genre! Babylon 5!

Absolutely loved the show for how it worked to show hope in the face of evil and overcoming dark agendas... and, after all those years of having to put up with her sickening sweetness goody-two-shoes-ness on Little House on The Prairie, it was nice to see Laura Ingalls get her come-uppins finally and get toasted on Zahadum...

Serenity is a bit too esoteric for me. I've watched it some, but it never really caught my fancy... to much time spent just trying to figure things out... kind of like the Hercules goes to Space Show (aka Andromeda), or that one other Roddenberry show where the aliens came to "help" mankind but become the human race's overlords...

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

rayb wrote:

I wish I could stomach more Battlestar Galactica, but it was just too sexual, and dark for my tastes. I got the first season on DVD last year, and my wife has asked if I wanted to get the next one, but honestly, I just couldn't justify it.

I do like Serenity, and nothing compares to B5.

--Ray

Serenity was cool! I never got really into the series until after the movie though. And I was a Bab 5 nut! The new Doctor Who is really well done. I never really got into the old episodes as a kid because of the poor sets but this new series is really rather clever. The writing and acting is really a treat.

Jeffery_LQ1W · Senior Member

Serenity is an expanded motif of post civil war western civilization. Esoteric? Perhaps, but very addicting. The acting and writing was such that I began to understand the characters, they were not typically two dimensional. Battlestar Galactica (the remake) follows that same advice, while the original was definately two dimensional and was supported too much by effects and concepts rather than people. Good science fiction, like all good literature, depends on the characterization and plot, not necessarily the environment.

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

Yeah, I can see that in Serenity. I never saw the movie. I just had a real hard time, personally, getting past the odd juxtaposition of what often looks like a wild west motif combined with clearly sci-fi aspects of the series. It just didn't work for me... maybe it was the country western theme music or something...

What about Farscape? What are folks thoughts on that series? I think that ranged anywhere from the bizzare to the silly to the hohum depending on the storyline they were following at any given time...

Jeffery_LQ1W · Senior Member

Farscape is one of the best series out there. Complicated and reflective of moder times. The casting chemistry was stellar and you didn't even notice the muppets had taken over the universe.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

I never could get into farscape. I don't know why it just didn't appeal to me. I haven't gotten into the new Heros series or Eureka either. Neither really appeals to me. Not that I need one more thing to watch on the television anyway!