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Commandment mentioned in Conference


During the Priesthood Session of the October 2009 Church General Conference, President Uchtdorf spoke of a "commandment" that I'll bet few LDSs are aware of. He included these words in his talk:

"For members of the Church, education is not merely a good ideaits a commandment. We are to learn of things both in heaven and in the earth, and under the earth; things which have been, things which are, things which must shortly come to pass; things which are at home, things which are abroad. ( D&C 88: 79-80 was the reference given in the conference report, although President Uchtdorf quoted only about the first 1/2 of Verse 79. ) http://lds.org/conference/talk/display/ ... 19,00.html

If this is a commandment, and I believe President Uchtdorf intended us to understand that it is, how then can we best "learn of things both in heaven and in the earth, and under the earth;"?   I'm having trouble understanding what is meant by things in heaven, in the earth, and under the earth.

And how can we best learn of "things which have been, things which are, things which must shortly come to pass; things which are at home, things which are abroad"?  This part may be easier.  At least I think it has to do with history, current events and prophecy.  But what do you all think>


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I think those verses are meant to be all encompassing.  God is all knowing; how did that happen, I have often wondered?  What kind of education has our Father had?  All I know is that it took vast amounts of time and continuance.

Sometimes we get so specialized we forget there are many branches of learning and knowledge.  We can't learn it all in this life, but we can establish the trajectory here.  The most vital things we must learn are spiritual truths revealed from God.  Practical skills are great to have as well as a degree.  The Brigham Young manual from 10 years ago or so has a whole chapter on learning; it's worth a read.

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We are told to study all aspects of the gospel, not just "specialize" in one favorite topic.

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I think we should:

Pray for Obama : Psalm 109:8


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Definitely. Especially that he will repent.

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This whole nation needs to repent,  especially those of us who contribute to  this forum who have the fullness of the gospel.  President Monson gave us a very clear directive in GC: we must reach out and serve others. With advances in technology and luxury, we have become very introverted and selfish. This has to change.

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I suspect there will be increasing opportunities to serve others, as more ward/branch fast offering accounts go into the red, as is the case in our ward now and also stake-wide.  If this is any indication, we (and I assume some others as well) were recently requested by our bishop to double our fast offering, and then last week he asked us for an additional increase.  Also in our ward I note increasing calls for help to assist move-ins and move-outs, house painting and property clean-up, and Relief Society compassionate service.  My wife is the ward leader for compassionate service, so I know how active that program is.  I am afraid there will be increaing need for this sort of thing.    

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