"The promptings of the Holy Ghost will always be sufficient for our needs if we keep to the covenant path. Our path is uphill most days, but the help we receive for the climb is literally divine." --Elaine S. Dalton
I don't object. I simply neither love nor hate her. I really hope I don't need to explain why I don't want to date her.
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"The promptings of the Holy Ghost will always be sufficient for our needs if we keep to the covenant path. Our path is uphill most days, but the help we receive for the climb is literally divine." --Elaine S. Dalton
objectionable is that there is an assumption that hers is the only way that will work.
admittedly the people who are in the program are class A wanderers through terra incognita when it comes to raising kids.
but the 'we're gonna fix the kids' approach is offensive. if the parents (or DNA donors) do not modify their OWN quirks, oddities and vices, the changes enforced on the kids are useless long term.
The episodes I've seen have been more about helping the parents to parent than "changing" the kids. The kids' behavior just follows. I'm not sure they are saying there is one right way, but maybe those parents just need any right way.
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"The promptings of the Holy Ghost will always be sufficient for our needs if we keep to the covenant path. Our path is uphill most days, but the help we receive for the climb is literally divine." --Elaine S. Dalton
The episodes I've seen have been more about helping the parents to parent than "changing" the kids. The kids' behavior just follows. I'm not sure they are saying there is one right way, but maybe those parents just need any right way.
Eek! A ghost! And I agree with it!
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"There is order in the way the Lord reveals His will to mankind. . .we cannot receive revelation for someone else's stewardship." L. Tom Perry
All I know is that I heard someone attribute the phrase 'hands are not for hitting' to the show, and I use it a lot now. I've never actually seen the show.
I think the Supernanny can be quite harsh sometimes. I agree that most of the time the families featured on there definitely need help. Most of the time the kids are royal brats. What I want to know is, what exactly are this nanny's credentials? What makes her methods more superior?
It also seems like sometimes she is more interested telling the parents all that they are doing wrong than giving them real and helpful advice. But, that's just me. Maybe I need to watch more episodes. I haven't actually watched it in awhile. It's too painful to watch.
Too painful to watch? Huh. I guess when people are too blind to see what they are doing to other people sometimes it really has to be drilled into their head in a way they can actually, finally understand. Apparently harshness is what it takes for some people. Maybe it's painful, but at least they'll finally get a clue and stop screwing everyone's lives up. But then again, they might just go back to their old ways and pretend nothing is wrong at all. They'll refuse the help and tell themselves there was a hidden, evil agenda... or that the Nanny really doesn't have good enough credentials to tell me what to do - what does she know? Well, she knows their family is a great big mess and they are either incapable or unwilling to change. When your family is as messed up as these folks on TV it's not going to be a walk in the park to yank their blinders off.
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Life is tough but it's tougher if you're stupid. -John Wayne
All I know is that I heard someone attribute the phrase 'hands are not for hitting' to the show, and I use it a lot now. I've never actually seen the show.
Just tell that to Chuck Norris and see what happens!
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As I walk through this earth, nothing can stop, the Duke of Mirth!
Too painful to watch? Huh. I guess when people are too blind to see what they are doing to other people sometimes it really has to be drilled into their head in a way they can actually, finally understand. Apparently harshness is what it takes for some people. Maybe it's painful, but at least they'll finally get a clue and stop screwing everyone's lives up. But then again, they might just go back to their old ways and pretend nothing is wrong at all. They'll refuse the help and tell themselves there was a hidden, evil agenda... or that the Nanny really doesn't have good enough credentials to tell me what to do - what does she know? Well, she knows their family is a great big mess and they are either incapable or unwilling to change. When your family is as messed up as these folks on TV it's not going to be a walk in the park to yank their blinders off.
Coco, we are talking about a TV show where people are PAID to show their worst sides for money. And if the people who are willing to watch and believe this crapola think they (the Nannies) are helping someone, I want to know how much mind altering drugs they are taking. These families are not responding to this program because it's helpful - they are being PAID handsomely to participate.
And harshness is NEVER an instruction technique employed by the Savior at any time.
Jolting people by being rude and nasty doesn't promote long term change any more than standing in your garage makes you a Buick.
The only way to affect long term change is by encouragement, love unfeigned and a willingness to be humble even when the other party is nasty, rude, mean and just plain hateful.
Raising a family is hard work even under 'optimal' circumstances. And where disinterested DNA donors do not spend time with their children they don't manage to teach them much of anything except that they are 'inconvenient'.
Children who are treated as inconveniences to their parents act out in the most aggregious manner possible to gain SOME kind of attention albeit negative.
Oh, I wasn't aware that the show was a complete sham. I didn't know they were supposed to show their worst sides. I've only seen parts of it a couple times.
The Savior used some strong teaching techniques, however. (How nannies compares to the Savior, I'm not sure, but I'll try to go with the analogy.) Driving people out of the temple with physical force and a home-made whip "The zeal of mine house hath eaten me up"... calling people snakes, devils or children of the devil...and hypocrites. Luke 12:56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time? 57 Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?
Is that love unfeigned? Is that humility? Or would you consider that rude and nasty?
The Savior told the Truth, always inviting people to repent and come unto Him. It's when they didn't want to bend their own high-minded wills to His, did they run into trouble.
Sometimes a jolt does precipitate long-term change. Saul on the road to Damascus. Alma the Younger. Jonah in the belly of the big fish. For some, that's what they need.
And yes, children may act in an egregious manner when that's all they've basically had to pattern their behavior after. And I don't think anyone here believes raising a family (WELL) is easy.
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Life is tough but it's tougher if you're stupid. -John Wayne
Jolting people by being rude and nasty doesn't promote long term change any more than standing in your garage makes you a Buick That. is. awesome.
And I think that's the general principle. There are times when the Savior used forcefulness or even rudeness (he could be downright sarcastic to the Pharisees, which I find hilarious), but I don't believe it was ever done because He lost control.
In my experience, most of the time when people are hoping that rudeness will wake someone else up, they're using it because of impatience and frustration. And then they usually cite the Savior's cleasing of the temple as justification.
Just one more reason why "What Would Jesus Have Me Do?" should be our guiding mantra.
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They might not look it, but bunnies can really take care of themselves.
In case anyone wonders where the phrase came from, it started out more like, "Sitting in Church does not make you a Christian any more than sitting in your garage makes you a car." And I believe it's from Billy Graham.
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Life is tough but it's tougher if you're stupid. -John Wayne
Speaking of quotes on this subject, I read one once by Brigham Young that said something like, "Some people only need the gentlest reproof to change their course, while others need a smack up the side of the head with a stick before they'll see the error of their ways."
Does anyone have the exact quote? I've been wanting to add it to my collection.
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They might not look it, but bunnies can really take care of themselves.
Huh. I guess when people are too blind to see what they are doing to other people sometimes it really has to be drilled into their head in a way they can actually, finally understand. Apparently harshness is what it takes for some people. Maybe it's painful, but at least they'll finally get a clue and stop screwing everyone's lives up. But then again, they might just go back to their old ways and pretend nothing is wrong at all. They'll refuse the help and tell themselves there was a hidden, evil agenda... or that the Nanny really doesn't have good enough credentials to tell me what to do - what does she know? Well, she knows their family is a great big mess and they are either incapable or unwilling to change. When your family is as messed up as these folks on TV it's not going to be a walk in the park to yank their blinders off.
