This stat is heartbreaking to me

hiccups · Future Queen in Zion

This stat is heartbreaking to me

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

90% of WOMEN WORLDWIDE!!!

I think the earth is ripe with iniquity. That is startling. How many millions of people is that? I think I would flood the earth again if I was the big guy.

Cocobeem · Keeper of the Holy Grail

This time it's fire.

Jen · Senior Bucketkeeper

Euphrasie · Senior Bucketkeeper

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

The world is killing it's unborn children and worshipping at the altar of enviromentalism. Depressing.

LoudmouthMormon · Profuse Pontificator

They wear stiff necks and high heads; yea, and because of pride, and wickedness, and abominations, and whoredoms, they have all gone astray save it be a few, who are the humble followers of Christ; nevertheless, they are led, that in many instances they do err because they are taught by the precepts of men.

Janey · Senior Member

Okay, I'm absolutely terrible, but I am right on the verge of thinking abortion is not such a bad thing in 3rd world countries. Um, let me rephrase that. I wish women in 3rd world countries had access to good contraception. I deplore abortion being used as a contraceptive measure. But if I was uneducated, afraid to tell my husband 'no', already had four kids under age five that I couldn't feed, and knew that my husband would beat me for getting pregnant again, I just might have an abortion.

I am absolutely opposed to abortions for sex selection that is so prevalent in India and China. I am opposed to abortions in developed countries for the woman's convenience.

But when I read about what life is like for women in developing countries, I just can't bring myself to wish they would go to hell for getting rid of another baby.

That said, the much much much better solution is widespread reliable contraceptives. I think it's so strange that it is easier to get an abortion than to get birth control. The article said the highest abortion rate in Europe is in Eastern Europe in former Soviet countries. I served my mission there. They did use abortion as birth control. We baptized one lady who had had 13 abortions. She was completely matter-of-fact about it. "Well, of course! Otherwise I would have 15 children now!" (She'd birthed two.) That's terrible.

I am strongly in favor of birth control. I hope the outrage over the high abortion rate translates into more support for contraceptives and education to bring down the pregnancy rate.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

You can get controceptives quites easilly here and yet we've aborted millions in this country.

Janey · Senior Member

I think that's awful, Jason. I don't think abortion should ever be used because you could have used birth control and didn't. I just wish birth control was available to women who need it in developing countries. It's not just the women who think of abortion as birth control; the governments encourage that sort of thinking. At least they did in Ukraine as part of the Soviet bloc, or that's what the women we talked to about abortions told us. You couldn't get birth control; you could easily get an abortion.

Dyany · Senior Member

The fact that I have to adopt makes me doubly sick with these numbers. Those aren't just God's children they are murdering. They are mine. Even if there is no contraception or the contraception fails, there are still alternatives!

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

Sad.

Of course it always bothered me when it says in the scriptures that those who are pregnant when Christ comes again have extra travails... you'd think he'd make it easy for them... :)

Poncho29 · Senior Bucketkeeper

I agree with Hiccups. There wouldn't be such a high abortion rates in underdeveloped countries if they made contraception more available to the women there. They can get a dangerous, invasive procedure done but they can't get contraception!!!
As for developed countries, like Europe, it's just downright appalling. So many selfish people in the world.
What bugs me also is that in countries like China, even when someone doesn't have an abortion there are so many abandoned babies that nobody there wants, but yet they make it very difficult for anyone outside their country to adopt them.

-- Edited by Poncho29 at 21:13, 2007-10-12

Jen · Senior Bucketkeeper

Dyany wrote:

The fact that I have to adopt makes me doubly sick with these numbers. Those aren't just God's children they are murdering. They are mine. Even if there is no contraception or the contraception fails, there are still alternatives!

I'm sorry, Dyany. That's one of the very hardest parts of infertility: seeing others so horribly abuse the one blessing you long for most.

arbilad · Head Chef

Janey, I'm sure that you also remember that any woman who has had an abortion also had to have an interview with the mission president or someone he delegated before they could get baptized. I sat in on one of those interviews and translated. They not only check that the person understands that what they did was wrong, but that they have plans in place to make sure it never happens again.
Abortion is a very serious sin, and I just can't see it, even to save the child a life of poverty and hunger. But then again, I'm against euthanasia too, even if the person is suffering horribly.

Janey · Senior Member

Yes, arbilad, I remember the women had to talk to the mission president. She passed the interview, and we never talked about abortion again. I don't know how much her attitude changed because the topic just never came up after that.

glumirk · Senior Member

What's sad to me is that even in the US when you go to get your contraceptives, the OBGYN can just calmly offer to give you some samples of the "morning after" pill as well.

I remember in 7th grade a friend told me that her sister had an abortion. And their parents were strict Christian parents, but she was too afraid to talk to them about being pregnant so she had it aborted "secretly".

So sad! Those poor babies! :(