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rayb


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_intelligences

The above is roper's link to the gardner theory of multiple intelligences. I'm curious what folks think really "is" intelligence. Will there ever be "artificial" intelligence? 

And why did Joseph Smith use the term Intelligences to define what existed prior to our spirit bodies?

Could someone please clear all this up, and please provide your sources and mark your opinions as such, as I suspect it's a highly speculative topic.

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It is my opinion that there will never be artificial intelligence. There are two reasons for this. First, I believe that intelligence is more a function of the spirit than it is of the brain. The brain exists to help the spirit interact with the physical world. All your memories, thoughts, and everything else that is you is contained in the spirit. Even if your brain is caught in the middle of an atomic explosion, your spirit will still be you. You are not stored in your brain.
Thus, since intelligence is a function of the spirit, and a machine can never have a spirit, a machine can never be intelligent in the same way that we are.
Second, even "learning" computers can only react to stimuli in the ways that they have been programmed to. They can learn new patterns, but they react to those patterns in the way they have been programmed to.
Take a simple example: if a human being loses his powers of speech, he will learn other methods of communicating. If a computer loses its monitor, and it has not been previously programmed to use its speaker system to communicate with the user, it will never start to do that on its own. It will not develop a method of translating menus and user actions into audible sounds unless that programming already existed.

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My opinion is that JS used the term Intelligences because pre-Spirits sounds sort of ... evolutionary (which it is, when you think about it) plus it makes you think they were beings able to act... although the ability to act is a gift from God. Doesn't dirt and trees and everything contain intelligence?

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Couldn't it simply be the way that God was teaching Joseph conceptually so he could understand better? In turn, Joseph was doing the best he could to pass the information on in a manner that others could begin to grasp the concept.

Think about how the scriptures tell how God taught Abraham about the blessing of posterity he would have if he remained true to the covenants he made with God? He told Abraham to try and count the stars of the heaven or the sands of the oceans...

Contrary to popular social belief, we as mortals simply can't get our arms around certain concepts... eternity and just about everything with that is one of the biggies. The mysteries of the kingdom are mysteries because one can not discern, understand, or appreciate them without the Spirit.


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Didn't they debate this on an episode of Star Trek.

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rayb


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So are you suggesting that because it's hard to discuss on the internet that one is incapable of feeling the Spirit over the internet, Cat?


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No, I'm suggesting that some concepts can not even be tangentially fathomed without the Spirit. I was saying that folks have a hard time effectively communicating immortal concepts in our mortal limitations and language.

The internet has nothing to do with that, nor is the internet a mystery... it is an evil addiction! Therefore, we should burn it!

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The internet has repeatly proven itself to undamaged by flames. flame.gifflame.gifflame.gif See? No damage.

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