I'm not a cryer so that doesn't work for me. Spiritual experiences don't bring me to tears. I don't know why but it just doesn't work that way with me. I do feel happier. I just don't get the tears.
I'm sorry Jason but it's kind of hard imagining you having any kind of spiritual experience with that new icon of yours. I dunno can a zombie have a spiritual experience, obviously you must have turned into one... Or were you one already and you just happen to be advertising it now?
Jeez, you guys must have way awesomer eyes than I do, cuz I can't tell what that thing is...he's holding some kind of automatic weapon, right?
Yeah, ray, try not to bawl like a baby in front of sac. mtg. This new couple that moved in.. oh, my gosh.. this guy went on and on about The Wizard of Oz and was bawling... sheesh, it's one of those reeeeealy tempting times where Coco has to hide her face in her dress or she'll completely piss everyone off with her callous laughter. Wow! That was a hard one!
Yeah, I would say you can be sincere and show caring and love to people without getting all - unmanly about it.
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Life is tough but it's tougher if you're stupid. -John Wayne
I'm a crier, though. I don't wanna be... though... Is there any chance for me to change? Or am I just destined to piss of the Cocobeams in wards all over the universe?
--Ray
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I'm not slow; I'm special. (Don't take it personally, everyone finds me offensive. Yet somehow I manage to live with myself.)
What exactly makes you cry? What do you talk about that makes you cry? Cuz there's emotion (remember other thread gone bad) and then there's the Spirit. I don't think people know the diff sometimes... Not saying you're one of those people, of course.
P.S. And I'm not the one who's pissed, I'm just trying not to piss you off by keeping my uncontrolled laughter to myself. What would you do if you were up there crying and you looked down and saw someone with big snickers on their face? Would that help you to stop crying?
-- Edited by Cocobeem at 15:11, 2007-08-16
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Life is tough but it's tougher if you're stupid. -John Wayne
If you were laughing, I wouldn't be angry... I'd be disappointed... and then I'd remember... "This is Coco, and she's trying to help me get over this tendency to cry at feelings of the Spirit." and then I'd think of the great Love that Coco must have for me, to try and help me so... despite the fact that everyone around her would think she's an insensitive jerk... and knowing that, well...
...then I'd start crying tears of joy...
--Ray
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I'm not slow; I'm special. (Don't take it personally, everyone finds me offensive. Yet somehow I manage to live with myself.)
When I feel the Spirit strongly, the physical reaction in me trends strongly to get misty eyed. I can generally judge if it is just me or if there are others present likewise feeling the Spirit by looking at their countenances.
Though from the outward appearance, it may look like the same thing, there is a definite difference in turning all to mush because something was "sweet" and I'm touched (like when watching certain movies or stuff that plays on ones emotions) and the feeling of the Spirit. The former incapacitates and is just temporary while the latter invigorates, humbles, and is etched into the soul.
Learning to differentiate between the two scenarios has helped me avoid many a situation that would be classified as Coco's man bawling about The Wizard of Oz at the pulpit (though to give the guy credit, it is easy to get choked up about those flying monkeys pully The Scarecrow's stuffing out )... I've learned also that just because I may be feeling like doing it, I can still get my point across with the Spirit backing me up as strongly without letting the water works take control.
Oh, and if I looked down from the pulpit and saw someone with big snickers on their face, I'd probably start laughing thinking something like "What a rube! Who brung you up? It's one thing to bring cheerios for toddlers to church and feed them to them during the meeting, but you... you an adult brought candy bars and can't even seem to get your own eye hand mouth coordination down?!"
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It seems to me the only thing you've learned is that Caesar is a "salad dressing dude."
One reason I cry is whenever I feel a great deal of gratitude, I just feel weepy... it's like this huge warm feeling that just kinda gushes out the eyesockets... I suppose it's a learned response, but I cannot for the life of me unlearn it. I wish there were some other way to express one's gratitude in an external way that was perhaps less effeminate, but men don't really put a lot of thought into deep communication, most often seeing it as a means to an end, rather than pondering the depth of one's language.
I also cry at sappy movies, either that or I make fun of them and keep myself emotionally detached from them...
--Ray
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I'm not slow; I'm special. (Don't take it personally, everyone finds me offensive. Yet somehow I manage to live with myself.)
What exactly makes you cry? What do you talk about that makes you cry? Cuz there's emotion (remember other thread gone bad) and then there's the Spirit. I don't think people know the diff sometimes... Not saying you're one of those people, of course.
P.S. And I'm not the one who's pissed, I'm just trying not to piss you off by keeping my uncontrolled laughter to myself. What would you do if you were up there crying and you looked down and saw someone with big snickers on their face? Would that help you to stop crying?
-- Edited by Cocobeem at 15:11, 2007-08-16
Coco, you crack me up. I like your style.
Not picking on you, Ray, I just think Coco is too funny.
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Lo, there I see my mother, my sisters, my brothers Lo, there I see the line of my people back to the beginning Lo, they call to me, they bid me take my place among them In the halls of Valhalla, where the brave may live...forever
It's okay to think Coco's funny, Val. I tend to agree with her (as my response clearly indicates.) I think we're very lucky to have her here to remind us all of stuff that we all think but daren't say. 'Sides who else would go to Rated R Antimormon flicks and come back and tell us all about it, if not our friend Coco? :)
--Ray
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I'm not slow; I'm special. (Don't take it personally, everyone finds me offensive. Yet somehow I manage to live with myself.)
I cry everytime after Chuck Norris gives me a roundhouse kick to the face, and seek full frontal hugs as well to make the booboo feel better... but I wait until after leaving the room so no one sees...
I actually got a couple full frontal hugs last night at the party Poncho and I went too... One from a sister (not Poncho) in the ward who was too afraid to pick up her live lobster and carry it the boiling pot... she even called me her knight in shining armor for the rest of the night. And then as we were leaving from both the host and hostess. The host even gave Poncho a kiss on the check amidst a full frontal hug. But, I don't think there was any crying involved... unless you consider the tears from laughter at some of the responses to the Newlywed Game questions, which we lost to the host and hostess.
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It seems to me the only thing you've learned is that Caesar is a "salad dressing dude."
BTW, are you saying J. Golden wasn't spiritual??? I totally feel the Spirit reading his stuff... he was the Elder Who Kept It Real. He said, I'm for the people that Talmage and Roberts don't get through to.
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Life is tough but it's tougher if you're stupid. -John Wayne
it's funny how it takes all kinds of personalities to reach all kinds of personalities.... perhaps that fellow you mock reaches someone that you can't, Coco...
--Ray
PS> I strive to be the kind who can reach everyone... and then annoy them...
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I'm not slow; I'm special. (Don't take it personally, everyone finds me offensive. Yet somehow I manage to live with myself.)
That's a good point, Coco. I usually find myself more engaged by the remarks of Elders Oaks, Holland, and Eyering. And of course when Elder Packer is layin down the law. And I really miss Elder Maxwell.
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The ability to qualify for, receive, and act on personal revelation is the single most important skill that can be acquired in this life. - Julie Beck
"The promptings of the Holy Ghost will always be sufficient for our needs if we keep to the covenant path. Our path is uphill most days, but the help we receive for the climb is literally divine." --Elaine S. Dalton
What would you do if you were up there crying and you looked down and saw someone with big snickers on their face? Would that help you to stop crying? 
