Ward Churchill fired!

arbilad · Head Chef

Ward Churchill fired!

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

With all due respect to the false priesthood called academia, I think there are a lot of professors that should be fired for creating research and the like out of thin air... and they are probably at just about every university around the world.

arbilad · Head Chef

rayb wrote:

Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!

You know, that's exactly what I wanted to title this thread, but then I thought that people would get their hopes up that Hillary had died.

arbilad · Head Chef

Cat Herder wrote:

With all due respect to the false priesthood called academia, I think there are a lot of professors that should be fired for creating research and the like out of thin air... and they are probably at just about every university around the world.

I have no doubt that they're everywhere. And I don't think that Churchill's academic fraud would have been brought to light had people not examined his record after the 9/11 comments. But it would have been a travesty of justice if someone so much in the public eye had succeeded in getting away with academic fraud. That would have given it a sort of tacit approval.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

Of course he would have been given the boot a year ago if he were conservative and said something about gays, minorities, or women even if his research and credentials were good. I say good riddance. Some other leftist university will hire him though.

mirkwood · Senior Bucketkeeper

arbilad wrote:

rayb wrote:

Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!

You know, that's exactly what I wanted to title this thread, but then I thought that people would get their hopes up that Hillary had died.

That is exactly what I would have thought.

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

mirkwood wrote:

arbilad wrote:

rayb wrote:

Ding! Dong! The witch is dead!

You know, that's exactly what I wanted to title this thread, but then I thought that people would get their hopes up that Hillary had died.

That is exactly what I would have thought.

Who said she isn't already... A vote for Hillary is a vote for the living dead! wink

Homestar Runner · Senior Member

Ding dong indeed. My friend knows someone who was plagarized by good Mr. Ward. He's never gone public with it though.

Ward has promised to sue. He's been nothing but bad press and a thorn in the side of CU for years. I'd think twice if I were a liberal university looking to hire someone. Maybe he can get a job in Europe, where they practically have a Chair of Anit-American Rants.

HSR

Hoss Cartwright · Senior Member

I am glad he is gone, but like others have posted, about a billion of his brethren and sisters need to go with him.

It kind of makes me wonder why all college professors seem to engender so much respect. There are about ten from my college career that I still respect (one of whom is George Pace, and another is Elder C Max Caldwell, and K Fred Skousen, but I digress).

Even in the church, if a scientist or a college professor says something, why then it MUST BE TRUE. Yet if a prophet says it "oh he's just an out of touch old man."

So, we end up with the limited geography theory and such.

-- Edited by Hoss Cartwright at 11:24, 2007-07-25

arbilad · Head Chef

I've run into the phenomenon that Hoss talks about re: the church. I had a companion on my mission who was convinced that milk, in any amount, is bad for you. He had originally read it in a weight lifter's magazine (before his mission he was seriously into body building), but as ultimate proof of his belief, he said that a BYU professor had said it. He mentioned that in such a tone as to imply that if a BYU professor says it, that's the end of the discussion.

Homestar Runner · Senior Member

From page 82 of the 125 page "Report of the Investigative Committee of the Standing Committee on Research Misconduct at the University of Colorado at Boulder concerning Allegations of Academic Misconduct against Professor Ward Churchill", May 16 , 2006 (bolding mine)

4. We found serious problems in the following areas: a. Professor Churchill misrepresented some of the published sources he cites, which do not in fact support his accounts. b. Because neither his own statements nor our investigation produced evidence to support some of his more detailed claims, we conclude that Professor Churchill has created myths under the banner of academic scholarship. Those points are: (1) That infected blankets were taken from a military infirmary in St. Louis. (2) That an army doctor or post surgeon advised the Indians to scatter once smallpox broke out among them, thereby spreading the disease. (3) That the army had stored rather than administered a smallpox vaccine distributed for the purpose of inoculating Indians. c. Professor Churchill provided insufficient evidence in his essays to support his assertions that as many as 100,000, 125,000, 250,000, or 400,000 Western American Indians died in the smallpox pandemic of 1837-1840 (different numbers appear in different essays). Nor did he provide further information when requested by this Committee.5. The problems mentioned here appear in printed form over a period of ten years and generally become more extreme over time.6. Although Professor Churchill appeared in his submissions to our Committee to acknowledge that several of his claims are not supported by the evidence, he emphasized that he plans to re-publish with only minor changes in wording, not substantive revisions, the essay that provides the fullestand most extremeaccount of the Fort Clark situation.
7. We therefore find by a preponderance of the evidence a pattern of deliberate academic misconduct involving falsification, fabrication, and serious deviation from accepted practices in reporting results from research.

This guy should go bowling with Ed Decker and pals.HSR

-- Edited by Homestar Runner at 16:09, 2007-07-25

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

Ah Ed Decker, Mr. Fantasy Himself. That guy could do stand up if his claims weren't trodding on the sacred.

hiccups · Future Queen in Zion

All I can say is... It's about danged time.

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

I think professors tend to think highly of themselves because the students depend upon them for a grade, and because in order to keep one's job, one must convince others to give more money. Teaching in general tends to create a lot of liberal thinkers, due in a large part because nobody wants to pay for it, but everybody wants good ones... and even bad ones can pad your GPA so you can get better accomodations to other schools...

--Ray