Harry Potter predictions

arbilad · Head Chef

Harry Potter predictions

mirkwood · Senior Bucketkeeper

I predict that this will be the final Harry Potter book and that a movie will someday be made based on this tale.

Cocobeem · Keeper of the Holy Grail

I predict at the time the last movie comes out, I still won't be getting into this.

arbilad · Head Chef

Mirkwood, you should have put that in the spoiler tag! What if someone wasn't expecting it?

mirkwood · Senior Bucketkeeper

oops

Euphrasie · Senior Bucketkeeper

Spoiler: Snape will prove his loyalty by killing Voldemort while he's busy with Harry. Harry and Snape become good buddies and go into a potion development business, eventually inventing a permanent cure for werewolves.

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

Spoiler: Harry is the final horcrux. At this point, if JK is cool, I'll say that his scar is essentially an eighth horcrux... one that was unexpected to Lord Voldie. I also really wanna see Harry live, but if he were to live, he'd probably end up a squib, but my suspicion is that she won't let him live... Others that will die... Snape and Hagrid. (and if I were to prefer one over the other, I'd say Hagrid first... he's just so loyal to both Harry and Dumbledore that he will go berzerker on deatheaters...) I also wouldn't happen to mind if all the Malfroys died. I think the young one will, because JK's played up how Mrs. Malfroy loves her son, and I think there's a strong and compelling theme in the book about how parents can negatively affect their children's direction in life... I suspect we'll get to meet Dumbledore's brother in this book, a certain Mr. Abberforth... I also believe Ginny will have a much stronger part in this one (she sorta is Voldamort's rape victim) and that she'll probably be the one that tips the balance of power in Harry's favor. Returning the favor for when he saved her in chamberpot of secrets...

The big mystery to me about this book will be how JK manages to keep the story light and enjoyable while resolving so many dark and foreboding problems that she's set forth.

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

I'm on p. 104 -

Spoiler: Haven't finished the book yet, but I'm now more convinced than ever that I am right!! muwahahaha!!! So sad already some faves have died... :(

Actively peeing my pants now...

--Ray

fear of shiz · Profuse Pontificator

Spoiler: There will be no living with him now. You won't see me for awhile cuz I don't want to deal with the nauseating gloating that is going to follow.

arbilad · Head Chef

Spoiler: Yes, Ray, you were right. I hate to admit it. It still doesn't make sense to me. But at least Harry doesn't die. Well, permanently at least.

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

Spoiler: Ray will get chewed out by wife for peeing his pants as it sets a poor example to the children and make him clean up the mess and shampoo the sofa... Everyone else who had theories will find out that they now need a new literary series to get their addicted anticipation fix from... Cat will suggest "Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire", the unabridged version of Kovey's The Seven Hobbits of Highly Defective People, or Home Depot's home improvement do-it-yourself manuals...

Poncho29 · Senior Bucketkeeper

Spoiler: I predict (after all the hype of the final book is over) that there will be lot's of unauthorized Harry Potter books like there were with Star Wars and Star Trek. There may even be a prequel written that tells the story of Lily and James Potter.

I also predict that life will go on for Cat having never read any of the books. His knowledge of Harry Potter based solely on the movies. He will live an empty, hollow existence! He will be ostracized by family and friends! He will hear the virtual voice of Ray in his head saying: "You should have read the books Cat, you should have read the books." He will be walking around muttering incoherently to himself, "Why didn't I read them? Why? MY LIFE IS NOTHING! O' WOE IS ME!" "Now it too late." sob,sob. And then he will live in shame and infamy for the rest of his life because it will be revealed that he was the case study for "The Seven Hobbits of Highly Defective People."

-- Edited by Poncho29 at 19:43, 2007-07-22

Roper · Senior Bucketkeeper

Sheesh, Cat gets teased mercilessly by everyone here, and now his wife?

I know a good therapist, Cat.

Poncho29 · Senior Bucketkeeper

Roper wrote:

Sheesh, Cat gets teased mercilessly by everyone here, and now his wife?

I know a good therapist, Cat.

Yeah I know, that was mean, but I couldn't resist. Cat Herder looked at it and laughed and said "Now my own wife is dissing me." However, in my own defense I must point out that he did have me add the last sentence himself.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

I was impressed at how some of the predictions you folks made were right on and how some were so absurd as to test the limits of sanity. It was a good book but I was sad when I finished it. I feel at a loss knowing there will be no more.

Poncho29 · Senior Bucketkeeper

My teenage daughter went to a fireside last night and they talked about the new Harry Potter book. The bishop said to them, "If any of you ruin the ending of the book for me, you will die and your souls will not go to heaven." I say ditto!

PollyAnna · Senior Bucketkeeper

salesortonscom wrote:
I feel at a loss knowing there will be no more.

That is the ONE thing my son said at midnight on Saturday when he WOKE me up to say that he had finished it... He read it in about 6 1/2 hours after having participated in the "Trek" he was on for 4 days prior... Talk about a die-hard fan??? (At least he is a fast reader... I told him he could NOT keep reading after midnight or on Sunday... mauhahahahahaha) He very quickly showered and finished reading at 11:57 pm Sat night... Then he started again this morning to read it at his leisure... I am SO happy this is the last book... of course there WILL be something new down the road for him to latch on to... there always is...

arbilad · Head Chef

Our first counselor told people that they should be at least as excited about stake conference next week as many were about the 7th HP book. Considering that Elder Richard G. Scott will be presiding, I am very excited. That is one spiritual man.

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

arbilad wrote:

Our first counselor told people that they should be at least as excited about stake conference next week as many were about the 7th HP book. Considering that Elder Richard G. Scott will be presiding, I am very excited. That is one spiritual man.

Elder Scott's nephew was in my mission flight group / district. I was his District leader in the MTC, and he ended up my Zone leader when we all went home... So, that kinda almost makes me a member of the family.

I wonder... how would various General Authorities tell not to spoil the last HP book? hmm

glumirk · Senior Member

not done yet...Mr. Glumirk and I went to a midnight party to get the book, but we've had other things to do and are trying to read it together. Reading aloud takes a lot more time than in your head, but even when we try just reading silently, one of us is inevitably slower than the other (it changes from page to page as well...). We're hoping to finish it tonight. My little sister read it in 6 hours and was done at 6:35am on Saturday morning. I suspect she's already read it 3 times by now...that was her goal. She is an amazing reader and can remember far more than I can after 1 reading where I take twice as long as her! I guess that's why she's going into English and I'm an engineer...

Ros · Senior Member

Since I was gone all week with no internet access, I figured I could stay away for 2 more days while I read. I didn't dare even open Yahoo for fear of spoilers. Even at a resturaunt today, i had to sing to myself to keep from hearing whatever the two guys in front of my were saying.

And now...it's done.

I can't wait to talk about it...

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

Spoiler: Ray struts across this thread, and gives a coy wink to Euphie and Arbi. :P Just finished the book... It was so awesome!!

--Ray

-- Edited by rayb at 09:38, 2007-07-24

arbilad · Head Chef

Spoiler: I liked how Harry gave Voldemort the chance to repent before he defeated him. Voldemort, of course, didn't take the chance. But as much as Harry went through, he would have been justified in just outright killing Voldemort. But when it came right down to it, it wasn't even Harry that killed him. Voldemort never seems to learn, because it was his own rebounding curse that killed him again.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

Spoiler: I thought the last book was fantastic. I was saddened that so many of the characters I loved died but the whole theme of life beyond death softened the blow. I like the Harry in this book so much more than the others. He was mature, brave, honorable, and well grown up. As Arb pointed out he gave Voldemort every last chance to change. Even warned him what would happen. I was also glad to see that Snape turned out to be good in the end even if some of his motives in the beginning were a bit suspect. The last chapter that showed things 19 years later was also very good. I heard that Rowling wrote this chapter during book three. It wrapped things up very nicely. Neville really came into his own. In book one he was the bumbling goof. By this book he was a great leader. I wish Rowling would keep writing but understand why she finally ended it. She churned out a lot of books in a relatively short time. That kind of work load has got to be a strain.

Cocobeem · Keeper of the Holy Grail

So who dies?

(Don't worry, you're not spoiling anything for me.)

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

This will tell you who dies. So don't look if you don't want to know.

Spoiler: A whole bunch of death eaters. One of Draco's sidekicks. Lupin, Tonk, Mad Eye, Snape, Dobey, and Harry.

-- Edited by salesortonscom at 10:57, 2007-07-24

hiccups · Future Queen in Zion

Jason, you forgot:

Spoiler: Hedwig

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

Spoiler

I thought the regrets that Dumbledore had were touching, and Snape's backstory, and the story of how bad friends can ruin your chances with the girl you like was a brilliant part of the book. I had convinced myself at the part of the silver doe that it was Snape's patronus, and that he was really good. What I didn't see til the very end was the Wand Lore twist about how it was Draco that had expelled the Wand and was the rightful victor. Of course all that wand lore was new world information revealed in this final book. That was a cool twist. I have to put it to JK, she had a number of surprises to reveal all the way to the end of the book. Very impressive. Very well done.

Of course I will never forget that moment when I read the words that Dumbledore told Harry, "You were the seventh Horcrux." I cheered out loud when I read that... Did a little dance...

The end was rather abrupt, however. I would've liked to have seen a final scene with Hagrid in it, for example, but the last chapter was really nice--it sent the message of family which is a strong theme I try to imbue in my stories... I really wanted to see all the character's reactions to the events, but it was awesome to see McConagle, and Flitwick and such fight at the end.

And would've loved to have heard about Dudley, and Vernon and Petunia... but again, that wouldn't have really worked very well either...

The battle at Hogwarts was pretty awesome, though again some of the deaths felt pretty arbitrary. (Remus and Tonks)

I would've liked to have seen Fred and George fighting together on broomsticks and doing more, before they killed Fred.

Oh and... while we're spoiling everything... Hedwig's death at the beginning of the book really set the mood of dread for the whole series... but by far the saddest death was Dobby's...

Phew! What a great series... Neville's Grandma rocks!! :)

--Ray

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

Spoiler: Forgot Hedwig but am kicking myself most about Fred. I think Fred's death was the hardest because I really like the Weasley family. The heartache his mother must have felt. The twins were always some of my favorite side characters and it was sad when one of them died. Frankly, I was never a big Hedwig fan. It was a flippin bird for goodness sakes. He was a bigger deal in the first few books but really wasn't that big a player later anyway. I thought it was sad that Lupin and Tonks died after they just had the baby. It was also good to see Kreacher doing good. In the end he wasn't such a bad fellow, he'd been treated poorly and naturally drew he loyalties to the person who had treated him best which wasn't Sirius. I think there was a good lesson there.

arbilad · Head Chef

Spoiler: While I liked the "19 years later" chapter, it was entirely inadequate. I wanted to find out what jobs the trio had. Even what Ginny did, whether she was a stay at home mom, or joined Harry as an Auror, or what. I wanted to find out how Hagrid ended up. I wanted to know if Kingsely Shacklebolt was named permanent Minister of Magic. There were so many questions left.

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

Spoiler

Totally agreed, Arbi.

One more thing that almost seemed overlooked was Hermione's faithfulness to Harry. She was amazing in this book... I was convinced that JK was setting her up to die, because she seemed to always be there for Harry, except at the very end... which imo... kinda stunk... but hey! At least she didn't die! ;)

(though death is not a bad thing... unless you're Lord V--)

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

Spoiler: Btw, what did y'all think about Mrs. Weasley vs. Bellatrix? I thought her outburst was justifiably satisfying... :)

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

Spoiler: Can't wait to see that fight in the movie!

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

Spoiler: Jase, There were a lot of moments when I thought that... I kept thinking... This is gonna be so expensive!

hiccups · Future Queen in Zion

Spoiler: Sometimes, you've just got to let loose with the B-word. LOL.

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

Spoiler: So what were some questions or misdirections in the book left unresolved that you would've liked to have seen handled?

I thought that she purposefully misdirected readers with Fleurs Tiara (Griphooks comments for example). Also in book 6 the Phoenix's behavior at the end, seemed mysterious and the power of the phoenix was not entirely explained.

Also something that was unclear to me, when the fire came and destroyed the rusty diadem (assuming it was... though she could have left herself an opening there for another book, imo, if Fleur's Tiara really WAS the real Horcrux and someone unbeknownst to Harry and Voldie, stole it out of the Room or Requirement), though I think it was the room itself that provided the fire... is that right?

Pretty much nothing was ever revealed about Hufflepuff House at all... in the whole series... :(

It also wasn't entirely clear why Voldie summoned the Sorting Hat in the first place to burn up Neville with, or did Neville do that? (it was late by the time I got to that part)... it sure was convenient when he pulled out the Sword of Gryffendor... would've been funnier if it had come with Griphook holding onto the sword... :) Probaby would've ruined the moment, however.

Again, Neville's Granny rocks! ;)

--Ray

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

Spoiler: I would have liked to see more about the foreign efforts against Voldemort. They introduced the other wizarding schools in Goblet of Fire but they really didn't go anywhere. Made the whole war seem like a British event. It seemed like Rowling was going to do more of this at the end of Goblet but it just seemed to get dropped by the wayside.

Ros · Senior Member

Spoiler: There is so much to say about this book. Snape's backstory was exactly as predicted but I really wanted him to get something in the end. Some kind of glory, some kind of redemption.

I know Harry told everyone but I was expecting Snape to have the moment where he turns on Voldemort and shows his true loyalty.

At the same time, the way it went, Snape really was a silent hero. The bravest man i know... He didn't do it for glory, he did it for love. (I knew it for sure when the students get in trouble and he sent them to detention with Hagrid) And having him admit to Dumbledore that he really did love Harry...well, I just don't think he could have done that to the general public. Or even to Harry himself. I love Snape!!

And..hello??? who was Headmaster 19 years later???? come on!?!

BTW - Neville rocks! And one of the Weasleys had to die. If not, it would be too Disney. I was surprised it wasn't more. I had fully prepared myself for Ron, Hermione or Ginny to go, I didn't like it, I just braced myself for the possibility.

Ros · Senior Member

Spoiler: There was a brief moment when i wondered when Dumbledore would say "You can choose to go back or stay and prepare for the second coming..."

Instead, it was more like "you can stay or go back and do the work that needs to be done on earth..."

either way...seemed a little familiar...

Ros · Senior Member

Spoiler: Any of these look familiar?

Matt 6:21 'For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.' (also 3 Nephi 13:21)

1 Cor 15:26 'The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. '

And how many times is the "resurrected" Harry refferred to as a savior?

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

Spoiler: There were definitely some very "scriptural" moments in the book. I love that sort of thing.

fear of shiz · Profuse Pontificator

Does anybody need the spoiler thing anymore?

arbilad · Head Chef

Yes, Hiccups and Bok still do. Those are two that I know of. It's possible that there are others.

hiccups · Future Queen in Zion

No, I'm good. I've read it.

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

Spoiler: I don't.

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

I have made it through chapter 1 of Sorceror's Stone... If anyone tells me what happens after that, yer dead meat!

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

Yay! Cat's reading the books! Don't give up! You can read! I know you can!

--Ray

hiccups · Future Queen in Zion

Spoiler: A link for those who thought the Epilog was a bit too vague:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19959323/

Ros · Senior Member

Cat, just remember that Rowlings writing improved by leaps and bounds after the first book....

Yay for Cat!

arbilad · Head Chef

I just hope that posting without the spoiler tag in this thread now that everyone has had sufficient time to read the book will be looked upon more kindly than wearing white before labor day.

I particularly like how to enter the Ravenclaw common room you needed to solve a puzzle. That seems so Ravenclawish.