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Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could increase our missions the way we have been increasing our Temples?

Problem is, we don't have the manpower.  Mormons are having less kids which means fewer future missionaries. 

Look around your wards.  Quorums with 10 Deacons or Teachers or even Priests are a thing of the past.... or a rarity.  In my brother's ward he has a bunch of Priests, 4 Teachers and 2 Deacons.  It's that way throughout his stake.  We have one ward in our stake that has 1 of each.

Perhaps we just need to concentrate on baptizing young families.

I don't know what the answer is, but I would think that by now we should have 400 missions.

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What do the Aaronic Priesthood Quorums look like in your wards?

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We have four Priests, three Teachers, and four Deacons.  Many of them are in a blended-family situation and spend every other weekend at the other parent's place.  They all seem to be on the same schedule.  So on one week, we have enough YM to prepare, bless, and pass the Sacrament.  The next week, we'll have maybe two YM, and the Elders take over.

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In my home ward I think they have about 7 deacons, 8 teachers, and 5 priests (that is until they just changed the ward boundaries a few weeks ago, don't know now).

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Look around your wards. Quorums with 10 Deacons or Teachers or even Priests are a thing of the past.... or a rarity. In my brother's ward he has a bunch of Priests, 4 Teachers and 2 Deacons. It's that way throughout his stake. We have one ward in our stake that has 1 of each.

 It depends on your location.  In my ward and stake, aaronic priesthood members abound: within the next year or two, my ward will need to organize a second deacon's quorum.



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Bok,

I hope that there are MANY, MANY wards and stakes like yours in the Church.

There was a time when the brethren gave a year end report in the Church News telling how many Deacons Teachers and Priests there were in the Church...  I haven't seen one in quite sometime now... the last one that I saw Church-wide showed a tiny number of Deacons compared to Priests.  In order to grow missions, it needs to be just the opposite.

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Woohoo! there's going to be a new mission in Ukraine Dnepropetrovsk! The church is growing in Ukraine! My efforts 12-14 years ago are bearing fruit!
Now if they can just get the temple started in Kiev...
BTW, mahonri, I remember what your church calling is, and it puts you in a good situation to know how strong the youth of Zion are. We may have fewer youth (my ward of over 400 doesn't even have a deacon's quorum at the moment), but are they as strong or stronger than ever? I have been really impressed by the youth in my ward.

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hmm...my homeward doesn't really count because I lived in a community full of old people.  The families that had kids all seemed to have around 5 or so.  Because we lived in a nice town that is also right by a military base, we had a newly-wed or almost dead ward.  However, one of the wards in our stake did have 2 deacons quorems, but they were about 2 years younger than I.  Unfortunately, my graduating seminary class was only 10 students, 3 of which were guys.  Then I came to the Single's ward, and the numbers are much better.  But yeah, all through high school we had maybe 3 young men total.

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This is a huge systemic problem as our society collapses under the burden of its own success in business and in the pursuit of wealth.

Stakes are shrinking in some areas of the Puget Sound. Much of the problem is that in larger urban areas, the cost of living is so high and so expensive that both spouses are required to work for a living. This drives up the cost of housing to astronomical rates. Dual income families displace the families, school quality and interest evaporates as both working parents have no time to spare for their children's education so they purchase better with their extra money, or their children suffer in inner-city schools that simply can't keep up with those that have the benefit of a large volunteer base. The solution to this perceived inequality, for most unimaginative politicians and educational beaureacrats is to spend more money--which raises taxes, and further increases the standard of living to a level that is unsustainable if you're a single income earner. These same inner-city neighborhoods are frequently the nesting grounds for social deviants, violence, criminal behavior, gangs--on the other hand--society is hardened, less willing to give a kid a break or provide alternatives to natural exuberance of youth. Children are expected to behave or they go to jail, and are prescribed mood-altering drugs. 

Once upon a time little Billy could hit a ball through Old Man McGregor's Barn window, and would have to get up the gumption to confess his clumsiness and had to work off the repair--learing a valuable lesson. Now Billy's serving time for vandalism, and McGregor's filed a civil lawsuit--suing for emotional damage and claiming the baseball assault was racially motivated. 

Dual income families typically have smaller families, they also put off the pursuit of child rearing until later years--it is now trendy to start trying to have a family around the age of 35 to 40 in the world, procrastination--which brings with it the heartache of infertility and physical exhaustion due to the physical demands of parenting. A child is now a hobby or a pet--or a whim. Sometimes children are trophies--a tribute to the person who has everything else. These children are given the best of the best--except their parent's time.

There is a great strain upon families in which there is one income winner, especially in these areas in which commutes can be upwards of 3 hours a day. That's a lot of unpaid time away from home.  In bigger companies the family man is less desirable than the worker who has only a dog and a girl-friend at home. The family man typically doesn't enjoy travel, has emergencies unrelated to himself caused by children and their needs in education, sports and medical. A family man is more costly to insure, is often in worse shape (because he cannot devote his life to his looks or physical conditioning) at least in terms of appearance, and has to answer to the demands of a housewife.

With a higher level of education, sometimes the additional costs can be offset by a better paying job, but the idea that a person spends his entire livelihood on the raising of a family is an enigma to the modern worker. Fresh out of college and fixated upon their career path to glory, most college grads haven't even considered that they might someday be mommy or daddy. They just assume it is something they will do after they get bored with the acquisition of more stuff.

And while the liberated woman is a key demographic for jobs, the male non-minoriety male is part of the problem, not the solution.

Marriage is eroding, and the relevance of men in the family wanes. Men are deemed optional at best. Even in the church, men are often the butt of jokes (or sermons) due to their natural physical lusts and imperfect organizational skills and what is perceived to be incompetence in church programs that are straining to keep up with an avalanche of ill will, bad press, sour grapes, and only partially converted members who do a half-baked job at their callings. And when does a man have time to go on scout camps with the scout troup in this flurry of expectations already placed upon his time?

To add fuel to the fire, because of modern medicine, people who normally would be dead or would've died in childbirth, are not able to have children via C-section. (My wife is this way. Both she and my first daughter would've died, had they not devised a safe and effective way to get baby out of mommy's tummy other than the normal delivery method...) But this physical nuance is not without its physical cost. (After five c-sections, I felt my wife was physically at her limit...) 

Meanwhile we have higher expectations on parents. We all assume our parents really screwed up on us. We cannot spank our children anymore--that's abuse. Parents are not allowed to place expectations upon their children--free agency!!! There's a perverse fear of overstepping the bounds of one's priesthood and entering the realm of compulsion--so much so that we don't do anything... and it's all good, at least we loved them into mediocrity. People who have never had children are telling us that we're scarring our children by sending them to their rooms. The demands that a parent be an uber parent, culpable for all its flaws, and liable for whatever needs aren't met, while at the same time, "it takes a village" of busybodies who want to teach our children that alternative lifestyles that don't produce children at all are just as viable as those that do... that marriage is a matter of convenience and a couple's love... and that it's just as good to adopt as to have children of your own (due to population control)--so the numbers continue to dwindle.  Children are merely mini-adults and innocence is something that's derided.

It is considered humorous in movies when babies say curse words that once made sailors blush.

Free Condoms, drugs, Abortion on demand, homosexuality, masturbation, perversions of every shape and form flood the internet and enter our living room over the internet, teevee, and radio--each of these takes its toll against our youth. What was once natural curiosity is now guarded with such abhorence from terrified parents and confuddled youth, that we most likely only make the problem worse. We have to talk about it. We have to warn--stem the tide of filth. Dark things spew their inky influence over our children before they know how to dribble a basketball, or dance a simple two-step. 

Divorce is more prevalent than ever. The hearts of many elect men and women simply fail them. They throw up their hands in an effort to "find themselves"... The world grows upon us all--day to day.

Yay for Sin!!

So yeah... we may be having a little trouble in the providing missionaries department... yet somehow the Gospel of Christ rolls forth and fills the earth. 

--Ray 

 



-- Edited by rayb at 04:03, 2007-02-11

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Thank you Ray, you said what I was thinking, but i just don't have the way with words that you do.

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Ray is right on. It comes down to people's priorities being out of whack.
We live 40 minutes from my work, drive older cars, etc. so that we can afford my wife being home. Other people have different priorities. And sure, they vacation more often. Sure, they have more stuff. But I have two (so far) well adjusted kids. I think I'm richer.

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arbilad wrote:
I think I'm richer.

By all the measurements that really matter, you are.

 



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Wait...does that mean more kids=richer person?  Or do they have to be well-adjusted too? 


*waiting to see if she can claim to be better than arbilad*



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The more kids you have, the more free tickets you get to the Celestial Kingdom's buffet table...

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Ray, you hit the nail right on the head.

We pray everyday that all 7 of our little darlings will be able to serve full time missions.

#1 should get his call this week sometime.

Come Thursday we'll really be on edge when the phone rings hoping it's "the call" from Utah.

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update.... he is going to the great northwest of the US.

Que bueno.

-- Edited by Mahonri at 04:09, 2007-02-26

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