This was shared in a talk yesterday...

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

This was shared in a talk yesterday...

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

I fed neither because I am against the reintroduction of wolves into the U.S. They are hurting ranchers and farmers by preying on livestock. They are also hurting elk and deer herds. Another reason not to feed either is because if you feed a wolf a fish you feed him for a day but if you teach the wolf to fish then he looks super cool in a speed boat and coast guard approved personal flotation device. Then you post the video of the wolf driving the speed boat on Youtube and get 15 seconds of fame!

bokbadok · Senior Bucketkeeper

So, did the speaker go on to detail how to feed each wolf? If not, it's just a clever soundbite. I have no use for fancy parables that don't include practical advice.

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

I don't remember the rest of the person's talk... the theme of the talks was on reverence (I think), and well, I was not being entirely reverent as I wasn't really listening...

But, having some Native American ancestry in me (and being a conceptual learner), I guess I just took it for granted that one didn't need to be told how to feed either wolf.

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

Cat Herder wrote:
I don't remember the rest of the person's talk... the theme of the talks was on reverence (I think), and well, I was not being entirely reverent as I wasn't really listening...

But, having some Native American ancestry in me (and being a conceptual learner), I guess I just took it for granted that one didn't need to be told how to feed either wolf.

Blah, blah, blah, more liberal dribble. It isn't good enough to feed your own family anymore. I have to feed a couple of wolves now. You would think those wolves could feed themselves but no, we have to come up with a government program for them whereby they take money from me and give it to some bloated government bureacracy where 99 cents out of each dollar is wasted and less than one cent actually gets to the "needy" wolf. And now I'm expected to buy a speed boat for the wolf so it can learn how to fish. The folks that come up with this stuff must be stupid and should not be allowed to breed because stupid + stupid = Double Stupid. Same goes for ugly. Ugly + Ugly = Diane Fienstein.

Euphrasie · Senior Bucketkeeper

You're cracking me up!

Ros · Senior Member

Ah-Ha!!

So it's wolves that are running around inside me threatening to break out and eat someone.

I can live with that.

arbilad · Head Chef

Ros wrote:
Ah-Ha!!

So it's wolves that are running around inside me threatening to break out and eat someone.

I can live with that.

Wouldn't it be hard to walk with two large timber wolves running around in circles inside you?

salesortonscom · Wise and Revered Master

arbilad wrote:
Ros wrote:
Ah-Ha!!

So it's wolves that are running around inside me threatening to break out and eat someone.

I can live with that.

Wouldn't it be hard to walk with two large timber wolves running around in circles inside you?

Is that kind of like Ferret Legging where you put a couple of ferrets in your pants for the purposes of gambling?

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

The Ministry of Funny Walks has indicated per policy 25TG-78_Y that Ferret Legging, when not used in conjunction with games of chance, is a legitimate discipline in the creation of funny walks.

Also currently before the Regulatory Board of the Ministry of Funny Walks is the motion to provide funding for furthering research on the development of the North American Indigeneous Peoples Dual Inner Timberwolf Circular Running Funny Walk.

Those who have interest in pursuing this research are encouraged to submit their grant requests in triplicate to the affore mentioned Ministry.

bokbadok · Senior Bucketkeeper

Um... okaaaaay.

Hoss Cartwright · Senior Member

Actually, two wolves running around inside of you could cause a gyroscopic effect, thus improving your equilibrium. And your sense of direction.

The same effect is provided by gerbils for those who weigh less than 200 pounds.

FWIW, a discussion on what constitutes "feeding" would have been worthwhile. The parable is a good "attention activity," but without a "how do we relate this to our everyday lives" discussion, it's just more "sundayschoolspeak."

After all, it's "teach me all that I must DO" not "teach me all that I must KNOW." At least it is now.

Cat Herder · Understander of unimportant things

Ah come on folks...

Are y'all so hardened that you have no way of likening the story unto yourselves? I mean, come on... it ain't like it is the words of Isaiah!

{puts on Nephi outfit and holds forth his hand as if to touch you all and make you quake } The proverb is talking about personality traits. One of the wolves is the negative traits, the other the positive traits. The question is which of the subset of personality traits do you spend your time and effort developing and nurturing? Even in Ether, when Moroni or Mormon is talking about weaknesses and how The Lord allows each of us to have our own set so that we can be humble, we aren't told specifically how to overcome them... We're simply instructed that if we take them to The Lord, He will work with us to make our weak areas things that are as strong as our good, strong personality traits... {takes off the Nephi outfit}

Now, if we were to take the proverb and rewrite it into modern Utah LDS language, it would end up probably having to be like three pages long with at least 10 bulleted points with buzzwords to show the metric for showing success at the defined behavior.

For the record... as a former youth Sunday School teacher for a number of years, true "sundayschoolspeak" is not going to spoonfeed you the answers. It is going to speak and testify of the truth, and it is going to work on your spirit to encourage you to seek, ponder, and pray for yourself.

Now, to tell the truth, I really had no idea what the story had to do with the talk though...

So, what happens if the gyroscopic effect is not acheived when the wolves / gerbils are chasing each other instead of running in opposite directions?

rayb · Hot Air Balloon

to those of you who mocked poor Cat, I've tripped over a scripture which echoes the sentiment (at least in part) of what the old Indian guide was expressing.

It's in Romans Chapter 7. The whole chapter is one of those chapters in which you wish you could slap Paul for getting all tied around himself in verbiage... I dare you to read it aloud, it's not too long, but it'll make you cross-eyed, as he talks about the duality of man that's created because of the Fall. The duplicity of sin, and the heart's desire for good being sin, and the desire for sin being good... or whatever... it's pretty freaky... but here's the verse I thought pertained to this discussion...

" 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. "

--Ray

-- Edited by rayb at 13:19, 2007-02-17